Hi Shawn, is there a reason why video from behind is taken on an angle as opposed to halfway between the ball and your feet? My preference would be the latter so that I could more clearly see things like the path of the club and body.
Thanks so much. This helped me immensely. I
was getting too hung up on trying to hit positions.
Hi Ron! Definitely an anomaly; have a look at the “pumping up the volume”video which will have a good view of the backswing and the same flavour as this one! Also see “feet together back to feet apart” video
There seem to be as much lag in the backswing as in the forward swing in the perpetual motion portion of this drill. Would this indicate the use of a lagging clubhead take away from a normal set up? Bill Mehlhorn said “the last thing to move in the take away is the club head.” I think this would be “float loading”. What are your thoughts on this technique?
Exactly right! Especially in the days of the hickory shaft; the golf swing, and several other techniques in other sports for that matter, is a DUAL KINETIC CHAIN. Just like heaving an axe into the backswing to gather it’s momentum in the “using the weight in the swing-axe drill with savy” video.
Hello Shawn. I’m a new member here but have been watching your YouTube videos since 2007ish or so. Watching this video, I noticed something in your driver setup and I see alot of tour pros do the same. At address, your left arm and shaft of the club are in a straight line together…club just looks like an extension of your left arm. This seems like it makes the right shoulder lower at address b/c to put your right hand on the club, it naturally lowers your right shoulder. I’ve never thought about this before…then I thought about my driver setup and my arm club unit…my left arm and club are not like that at address…and my right shoulder is not near as low because of it…however, I feel like I drive the ball well…always play a draw…its just more natural to me..so wondering how much this left arm club shaft straight line at address matters? Should I purposely set up like this? I have a nice penetrating ball flight with a 9.5 driver….never done a simulator thing so don’t have numbers for launch angle or spin rate…but on course, I know I’m getting it to the 300 range with roll…most of my drives curve left…some more than others…most are a slight push then draw…guess my question is, what benefits do you think I’d get setting up like that at address? Looks like it would be easier to hit it higher…I pick my int. point, set up, put my left hand on first, then put my right hand…but don’t have that straight line between arm and club shaft…thoughts? thanks!
Hi Casey! I would not try to teach Fred Couples to do this; every person is different and the lesson here is PURPOSE. What are tou getting ready to do? If you are getting a lot of pleasure out of your drives and distance and accuracy and consistency are not problems for you, then the saying goes: “IF IT AIN’T BROKEN, DON’T TRY TO FIX IT” 😝😝
Now, if you are a tour player, and the flight of your driver was limiting you in certain events that you have at heart, then we would talk about simple task based options that would get you the trajectory that you need. You have seen the “best lesson I ever got from Moe Norman Shawn Clement” video on youtube?
Thanks for the reply Shawn 🙂 I understand completely what you mean about not fixing what is not broken. I didn’t know if it was hurting my ability to hit fades off the tee. Fades are very hard for me where as draws/hooks are very easy. I probably watched every video of yours multiple times 🙂 My distance and consistency with my driver are fine…but some times the wind is right to left and that right to left ball flight can easily get away from me in that wind…that is when I want to hit a fade that basically just counteracts the wind and stays straight. I feel great club whipping and power with my draw swing but with the fade swing, it feels very weak and slappy…didn’t know if I’m my draw swing is being saved with my hands at the last split sec…feels like I have lot more time in the downswing in my draw swing compared to my fade…in my fade swing, I don’t feel loaded up near like I do with my draw swing…when I get some time, I’m going to upload a video to the site for you to analyze…thanks for all you do!
See “fade fine tuning” and the next 2 training sessions we are going to do a special “waggle” training series overseeing the “Sangjae Im” backswing and the “justin Thomas” Waggle; draw will be the first and fade the second week. Stay tuned!
One of the best drills ever. I was hitting draws and fades further and more consistently on one leg than on two. I did the drill with my driver and my driver club head speed was faster. I gained 5mph swinging on one leg! Crazy!
Wow – I got my latest swing video comments back and one thing was to narrow my stance because I was dragging my trail foot forward (and wearing out my shoes). I was experimenting with stance width hitting balls into my net. So being a WIG person I was using Goldilocks to see what happened.
I found that my normal stance had the inside of my feet around my shoulder width, n if I went to the outside of my feet around shoulder width things changed. 9/10 shots were flushed with way more power into the net. Then I said, OK I need to go ask Shawn why this happened and more about it. Then I searched for a video so I could leave a comment in the appropriate spot, and I find this one which pretty much was what I did in my net and it added all of the answers to my questions.
The combo of a slightly stronger grip and narrower stance totally change my consistency of strike and the power delivered to the ball. The swing bottom moves forward as well. Too bad we got snowed out today from playing, but I did get a chance to solidify everything in my mind.
Thank you Shawn for all you do! The addition of Savannah and Mu has been great as well – we get to see the application of the lesson on two other people. I think it also helps to watch the inverse swing – I am not sure why though.
Right on man! This is why we work so hard to bring you these videos! 😀👍
thank you so much for taking the time to write your important feedback; GREATLY APPRECIATED! 👌👍😀
Shawn, 1st swing vs 2nd swing observation: In the 1st swing it looks like you are placing the club in the backswing but in the 2nd swing it looks like you are tossing the the club to the top in the backswing as happens in the perpetual motion drill. I love this drill. Anticipating having to do the 2nd swing, I guess the central nervous system makes the 1st swing better. Make sense?
Exactly! I have built this mental response into all my swings now and my first swings have much more integrity and poise. I am getting ready to deliver 2 releases into the direction I want to start the ball and the posture integrity is significantly better and getting better with every rep! 😀👍💪👌
Hey Shawn, we you setup for the draw or fade is the club face aimed at your target and then your feet and shoulders aimed in the direction you want to start the ball? I’m a little confused on the target alignment for the draw when you say in the video that if you want to hit the ball to the flag you aim at the flag? Is that club face?
NEVER THE FACE. ball position-alignment-path and then face is adjusted DYNAMICALLY based on action to target. See “predict contact” “goldie locks series” “draw fine tuning” and “fade fine tuning”
When you take your backseing how much weight is on your right foot. Seeing your good rotation I would think most is on the right foo.t. Stack and tilt guys insist that most of your weight is always on the front foot.
Hi Craig! Correct, if you look at the “walking drill” video, which is the pillar of human movement patterns, it would blow a big hole into stack and tilt; and so would ball below feet, uphill shot, anything driver swing…
The axe drill is one of the best. I can relate to that like throwing a sledge hammer against a wall of concrete in my work. The best thing I got from this drill is the bent knees or squat to get ready to heave the unit. Puts me in perfect position on plane everytime and I can even get my interlock grip on the way done.
Hi Flip! Always naturally. If you combine this with the “throwing the club” video; and you throw the club without letting go, the weight of the club will release the trail hand over the lead hand and stretch you into the direction you want to start the ball before it re-hinges and wraps around the body or helicopters upwards. Always use the “g-forces” of the swing to place your anatomy and keep the interference out of it.
Shawn thank you for clarifying the grip especially the trail hand. Ive been playing 25 years and until now never truly understood how to hold the club. If my short practice today is any indicator this will be one of my best seasons yet. I have settled with the ten finger grip since i’ve all played baseball most of my life but was told early on it was bad and stayed away from it until now. Question for you though I saw the person before me ask about the ten finger is there anything I should look out for? Ive heard other teachers say it causes overactive right hand etc…I mean if Im hitting the ball at my target I don’t think there is anything but thought Id run it by you.
Hey Mike! ANYTHING THAT WAS EVER ESPOUSED IN THE PAST THAT CONSIDERED ANYONE DEFECTIVE IS A BUNCH OF HORSE HOCKEY. We are not defective, and our homework consists of delivering a task into a target well through the ball with the grip and set up that will allow us to do this the most efficiently and the ten finger, or 8 finger and 2 thumb, or baseball grip is EVERY BIT AS CREDIBLE as the interlock and overlap grips. Enjoy it!! 👌😀👍
Well another day another epiphany 🙂 I went out back to hit maybe 20 balls due to a sore arm, and was trying to do the 2 ball drill. I can not seem to do it because there is nothing that I am swinging at or to (no task) for that second swing other than swinging. That is the reason I stoped taking practice swings 30 years ago.
So I modified the drill. I put a second ball down just past the first ball. Not perpetual motion because the first shot/swing is normal. I hit ball 1 and then ball two – bingo, everything locks in and makes sense.
Next step – let’s not line the balls up, let’s move them around to make it harder. This is even more fun since I really have to react to various ball positions and also the ball from shot 1 coming back from the net. If 2 balls is good, 3 balls is better. Now I changed the ball positions to be a triangle or a diagonal line, or any combo you could think of. And 150 balls later I had had a practice session that really showed me what it was like to eliminate all thought and just react while swinging the club.
The ball contact was amazing and I could evaluate what was happening with each swing (contact quality), line up the next swing and watch out so I did not hit 2 balls at once with return balls.
This was the most fun I have ever had practicing. Lots more laughing and it locked in my regular swing because as you have said, I am thinking that next swing so my posture is better maintained and I am really focused on the task at hand for my swing.
Thanks for all the great drills and videos! I think the modified 2-swing drill is going to be my stock practice method from now on. Oh yeah, I was using a hybrid and a 6 iron and thought how would it work with a driver? Yup, it totally works with a driver – flushed them all 🙂
OK -0 I tried to reproduce the magic today – it was fairly cold and I did not warm up well and had some bad shots mixed in here – I left everything in for realism 🙂 The first video is 6 iron, then 4 hybrid and finally 5w. The second video is with the driver. I noticed today when I was editing these that my footwork was really bad. My stance was too wide and I was really flaring my left foot towards the target. Always fun to watch what is really going on.
I did not produce the videos at the resolution they were recorded at and they are a touch blurry. You can get the idea of what I was talking about even though day 2 was not as successful as day 1 – I will continue to refine the process – and I think that is kind of the Wisdom in Golf way – you give us things to apply to our swing and we run with the ball and experiment to get to know our swings better so that we are better golfers and can diagnose things better (not fix things, but to understand what is happening).
Hi Shawn, I just have a quick question. Every time I try to hold the club in my 8-9/10 in strength it seems that I can’t go thru the ball with the same ease as if I hold it with a 3-4/10. My question is that something that I should work towards or should I keep holding it with my 3-4/10?
The key is to use the grip pressure you need to get through to the target as efficiently as you can for YOU. Everyone has a different interpretation of what grip pressure means for them, those grip pressure videos were simply to give PERMISSION for those who needed to maintain the club securely in their hands to get through the ball; too harsh is not good and too soft is mot good; GOLDIE LOCKS IS YOUR BEST FRIEND IN THIS INSTANCE and the measure we use to judge goldie-locks is the task of getting through to the target. 😀👍
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