Hi Shawn, I’m just wondering if it’s normal to have some kind of pain at the base of the thumb (base of the first phalanx of this finger) of the leading hand (in my case the left one as I’m right handed). Maybe I’m doing something wrong while gripping the club or during the swing. Maybe if the thumb is too extended on the grip or if the trailing hand gets too loose during the swing, the weight of the club applies too much force on the thumb ?
I wonder also if the trailing hand is not applying too much force on this part of the thumb, that is, squeezing it against the grip.
I use an overlapping grip for a while but I began with a baseball one.
Just asking. Any ideas ? Thanks for your help,
It happens! That has happened to me about 3 times in my career; when you release too much at the ball, the club releases around the wrists and jams in the snuff box too violently on the other side;
Feel that when you throw the club to the target, that the weight of the swing pulls the arms wide and towards the target before it re-hinges at the end of the swing.
Correct : it aches when I’m pressing on the snuffbox.
Maybe dehinging too soon at the ball ?
Or it could happen with too much hinging at the backswing ? I often feel the shaft of the club hitting my neck at the top of the backswing.
I have to send you a video in order to have proper ideas on what to work on.
I’m working on letting the club go back and forth without manipulating it. Cutting some grass back and forth with the club while having the arms relaxed sure helps me having some nice effortless shots.
Thanks for your quick answer.
All the best,
Pierre
Shawn I’m loving this drill for all clubs except the wedges. I’m hitting the hosel a lot. I’m checking distance to ball with the blur but still top shanking primarily the 60 degree. Thoughts?
I have seen this a few times; it just means that your backswing is still too flat for the wedges;
Option 1-practice ball below feet with an 8 iron
Option 2- single length clubs; think about it! My wedges are all the same length as my 9 iron; which is 1/2 inch long which is an 8 iron. LW-SW-GW-PW-9 ARE ALL SAME LENGTH.
I met a Golfer about 20 years ago who use to play on the NIKE TOUR and he told me that after you learn the Mechanics that Golf is 90% FEEL. After listening to your Audio, it sounds like your saying about the same thing. Is that right. Please reply. Thanks.
Exactly! This is what we talk about when we say our “self preserving” learning machine starts performing a simple task; then it creates benchmarks from the feedback as to what feels good and won’t hurt and what hurts and feels bad. Once the task is in, we are done; just match the task-feel which includes all the senses BTW, to a flight plan and away we go!
I look at the shot before me, feel the wind, chose the flight plan, match my set up to the feel of the delivery into the flight plan, confirm the set-up matches with a prediction, then focus on the feel of the delivery needed to match the flight plan.
“Throwing the club “is definitely the best for me at antimanipulation.Today I hit 70 out of 75 balls without manipulation using this analogy.Definitely a light bulb 💡 moment for me .Stopped me from any thoughts of body parts.Walked away from the driving range feeling like I hadn’t used any energy as it was also totally stress free. Thanks
Interesting experience I had about closing the face. I noticed that I was still going at the ball and hitting blocks and hooks, and just couldn’t understand why I was doing that. I then decided to try to close the face more, and suddenly I felt I could release deeper, blocks and hooks are gone, just getting a slight over draw when I’m not releasing to my target enough. I think I was compensating for a weak grip. People don’t believe me when tell them I fixed my hook by closing the face more 🙂
Following my video swing analysis, I did some training today performing some chip shots while keeping the head behind the ball. The shots were much more accurate than usual.
I wonder : in the turn, is it the posterior that begins the movement or the arms followed by the posterior or both at the same time ?
My sensation based on my experience is that beginning by the rotation of the posterior lets the arms to be more passive being tracted. For me, letting the arms initiating the movement leads to manipulation of the club and the will to catch the ball.
Very good Pierre!
The turn of the posterior (which is actually feet-knees-legs) using the ground to remove the body out of the way of the arms into the backswing like a lumberjack heaving an axe;
See “best golfers are lumberjacks shawn clement” on youtube as well as “anti manipulation” on premium;
Shawn
Hi Shawn, A huge thank you. Watched The shallow out your swing video on YouTube, and proceeded to finally break 80 this morning at Arizona National! 41-37 🙂 Thank you
Hello, i believe i may be in a similiar boat regarding lie angles. I have been hitting the ball well but very weak with long clubs off the deck. Today i thought id try to hit 3 iron like a wedge, push my arms up/forward not sure why just felt right and wow started crushing it. I believe it was the sole of the club hasbeen too upright and i have been making unconscious adjustments with shorter irons as its only minimal and also potentially have been standing too close to ball. Time to go find a good fitter! Hopefully these j36’s will bend a little
Another great fundamental. Looking forward to trying this. It took me a little while to incorporate your instructions but I must say I have never hit the ball so solid as now and my consistency is improving which is important to me (and why I dropped other swing methods).
Re-visiting this concept and video today; as usual I seem to get more out of your videos with multiple viewings. I have never had a problem drawing the ball, but I was missing it left with my old swing and previous unforgiving driver. I did some experimenting Sunday and found that with a slightly open stance the CHS was lower than with a square stance. Then I remembered that I was using a closed stance 3 years ago when I was just beginning and I was hitting a Titleist 915 3wood 260 carry and the driver 280 carry, close to 300 total. Those are probably max numbers for me and something I’ve been trying desperately to get back to. So perhaps a closed stance is more mechanically correct with those clubs producing faster speed? I wonder if anyone else has experimented with this?
Follow-up: After applying this “Golden Nugget” to my driver… I am thrilled with the improved results. In addition to utilizing this to the driver, I’ve also applied it to my longer clubs (my hybrids) with great results as well. I had previously fought an unwanted and inconsistent fade/slice on my 200 +/- shots. With this method they are pretty much flying toward my target. Yesterday I reached two Par 5s on my second shots and Birdied both of them.
Thanks Shawn!!!
Yes! For the reasons right here in this video! The length of the driver has a swing that now pulls more away from you and you need to pre-deploy the arm-club unit away from yourself at address. Hogan had the wedge handle almost between the knees but looked like Moe Norman with the 3 wood!
So with this outward pull, you need support! In comes the diagonal stance or closed stance as you put it.
Set up dynamically, meaning you are getting ready to deliver an action with the driver through the tip of tee in the direction of the intermediate point and you feel that the feet are able to support you WELL PAST THE BALL.
I’m a new subscriber and very excited about the great new potential your instruction is giving me. This driver nugget is particularly revolutionary to my confidence with the driver! I’m still developing a “target” mindset and not body positions. When I get it right I have picked up a 2club increase in distance across the board! When I get ball focused I either suffer a complete miss hit low left and fat or a big pull hook. Anyway, thanks so much for helping get much more enjoyment while I improve.
Right on Mark! This is exactly how it is supposed to work when evolving into a task!
Solid benchmarks to give the brain the right feel, sound and look so it knows where to go; you just give it clear tasks to accomplish! 😀👍
I can’t wait. I have been struggling with this for years. When I feel the pressure under my front foot during the downswing my ball contact feels amazing. Swinging from the top not so much.
Why I can’t transition from the step drill or one foot drill to a normal swing is beyond me. Range is also considerably different than course as well. Mental I know.
Help!
p.s. Perhaps a midwest clinic would be in order!!!
Keep the strain level super low when throwing the club in the direction you want to start that ball and keep the velocity.
What task are you using on the golf course?
Shawn
If hitting the ball is your task, good luck!! 😝😜
Where do you want the ball to go and what is the task and the feel of the task to get it there;
Practice this on the range! Every shot to a destination with a specific flight plan!!
Here is the focus sequence you need to go through as your pre-flight check list!
1-pick an “end target” or a place you want to have the ball end up
2-pick a flight plan that fits your ability to get the ball there; please INCLUDE THE HEIGHT OF THE SHOT or peak trajectory before it falls back down towards the end target. Be clear about the option-if not, goldie-locks the options.
3-find an intermediate point that will set you up into that picture from behind-MASSIVELY IMPORTANT TO TRUST ONCE YOU PICK FOR YOU TO LINE UP AND TO DELIVER THE ACTION.
4-PREDICT CONTACT AND DIRECTION BEFORE YOU LET THE SWING GO.
so that when you let your action release itself to the target, you can predict that the ball position, the distance to the ball, the posture, and the grip-club face relationship will fit the flight when you let the swing track itself into the direction you want to start the ball.
Predictions video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieQF5GjxzFs
5-EXECUTION
set up done? Prediction of shot done? It is now OUT of YOUR CONTROL, just give control to gravity and let the weight of the ARMS AND CLUB OR WEIGHT OF SWING release itself in the direction you want to START the ball (ON THE SIDE OF THE INTERMEDIATE POINT YOU CHOSE). Look for the feel of that low effort and nice whipping velocity that unleashes that ball into that flight with freedom and trust. Abandon control to the task.
6- DID YOU LET IT?
DID you stay with the feel of that release to that direction? Or did you get distracted by “making sure” of a position or something else making noise or commotion around you? How do you know for a fact that you stayed with it?
If you stayed with it:How was the strain level mentally and physically?
Was it hard or easy?
If you did not stay with it, something short circuited you and you were trying to do something else; what was that you were trying? What were your concerns?
7-The most important stat in golf THAT TRUMPS ALL STATS is how many times (there are average 36 full swings on the golf course) were you able to stay with your shot all the way to the finish? Can You CONFIRM WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT YOU felt the release of the club in the direction you wanted to start the ball?
IF YOU CANNOT CONFIRM THAT YOU STAYED WITH THE SHOT, YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME TRYING TO FIX YOUR SWING THAT IS NOT BROKEN;
Hey Shawn, first of all thank you for all the great content! I wanted to ask a quick question regarding the braced tilt in related to the closed or “diagonal” stance. I have been experimenting with this stance lately because I feel much more braced and capable of released to the intermediate point with my back foot slightly back. However, if I try to apply the turn and tilt philosophy I struggle with ball contact. Any recommendations? Thanks!
OK, VERY IMPORTANT COMMENT-QUESTION HERE!!
EVERYTHING YOU DO AT THE SET UP MUST MATCH YOUR TASK.
So at the end of the set up, you are ready to deliver your throw in the direction you want to start the ball and the predictions are that
1-ball contact will be solid because you have a great posture, ready to move into a throw
2-ball will start on the line you want it to because the ball position is proper to the shot
3-ball will curve in the air the way you want because the geip-club-face angle is proper for the shot
4-you will stay in balance easily because your distance to ball is allowing for full freedom of arm swing in front of you-under and through
See “predict contact” and “goldie locks series”
As for the pre-turn and tilt-GOLDIE LOCKS IT.
-This would be too much tilt-will scrape the ground behind the ball and go too far right
-This would be too little where I feel like the club will bury into the ground.
Enjoy!😀👍
I’ve been making good contact recently for driver and irons but I am leaking shots both left and right. As a result I’m less confident with committing to a shot shape and overall accuracy. I blame it on not having a consistent set up with ball position and grip. I tend to fidget with both of these. Do you have any drills/ visual aids for repeatable ball position and grip?
Oohhh yes! You must have the ability to predict the shot’s outcome BASED ON YOU DELIVERING YOUR ACTION-TASK TO TARGET.
See our “predict contact” and “goldie locks series” of 4 videos
When you stay on task to target, this will keep your center steady; but if you are unaware that your center is moving (sternal notch) around, then you get disconnected from the delivery to target and then default to the ball.
See “video 4” of consistency series which is “mile markers for direction”; then “mile markers for balance” and “mile markers for contact”
All the best!! Shawn
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