For Mu, he is getting the Riffle 6.5 which is the heaviest and Jumbo grips for his “meat hook hands” 😝
fitting is important; we do “goldie Locks” with shaft flex and shaft weight for our students and the results are super! Same for grip size. Goldie Locks is your best friend in everything!
I just tried this drill/task and it really produced for me. Seemed like I was able to hit the ball as far as throwing the club, but with less effort.
I was surprised in the video when you said you hit a fade. The set-up for this drill really resembles the set-up for hitting a draw, with how you seem to turn to get behind the ball.
Great stuff! And regardless of fade or draw, you are behind the hit. Remember that the shoulder alignment has nothing to do with the path of the arm swing.
Hi Shawn,
your knife analogy is just spot on. With pressure of the base joint of the right index against the shaft, thus opposing the right ring and middle finger, the ball flight is distinctly more predictable for me, compared to holding mostly with ring and middle finger only, while rather loosely opposing that with the index and the thumb. I did not expect this to be so important for the ball flight. This little detail gives me the feeling of actual control.
Regards
Eckhart
Exactly! This is why we call it wisdom! It is amazing how so many players have mediocre grips on tour that shift around and finish completely out of position at the end of the swing; I truly believe that there is an extra gear in control for them if they master what you just experienced! See Justin Thomas, Adam Scott, Colin Morikawa as prime examples…
Ooooh, I like this mini staggered stance option! I never felt like I could quite get setup as intended on the one legged drill and can’t wait to try this out.
“When you discover the draw you fall in love with it…”
This was me to a T. I used to slice bad and to fix I learned to hit a draw. Now that is all I want to hit. To the point where I struggle to fade and end up double-crossed.
Hi Shawn, Great video. One question. My golf pro has been telling me that I come inside on the takeaway and therefore I’m off plane. I was told that I need to start with the arms for the first couple feet and then start turning the shoulders. It appears that you come inside also. Can you please shed some light on this? Thanks much!
Hey Ron! Ha, that has nothing to do with it and it is one of the most misunderstood things in golf. Next youtube video will be on this very subject. In premium, you want to first see “how to match backswing to picture target” and “arm swing vs body turn”
see also a terrific couple of videos from the most recent 2020 off season training on takeaway waggle for fade and draw! 👍😀
Thanks for seeing it as I intended Shawn. I’m watching these now. Your instruction is just what I and others who try to “hit positions” during our swing need! I’m slowly but surely starting to loosen up and allow this, albeit older, machine do what it knows what to do. 🙂 Peace
Shawn, I want to be clear. I’m certainly not critiquing your swing. It’s just that I’m working so hard on getting this “right” that I’d like to better understand what “right” is, at least for me. Thanks again.
Hey Ryan! See the way I do it in the Goldie locks series; always do it is relation to delivering a nice throwing release in the direction you want to start the ball.
Hey Ryan! Once the distance to ball is done with Goldie Locks, you want to go to the “how to match backswing to target” video and goldie locks the top of the backswing-combine this with your awareness and the laid off will go away. Laid off backswings are developed by either defaulting to the ball over time or defaulting to side vision without an intermediate point over time or both.
Hello Shawn,
I wonder about the position of the lead hand thumb in the trail hand palm – how far does it reach up ? The release feels different to me depending on how ‘deep’ the left hand thumb is in the right hand palm. Harvey Penick recommends in his writings be able to hold a T between trail hand index and thumb, which places the tip of the lead thumb roughly to the level of fourth matacarpal of the trail hand. In your videos it looks more like the third metacarpal. What difference does this make and what is you preference ?
Regards
Eckhart
Hi Eckhart! We have answered this question several times in the grip videos; see the “long thumb or short thumb” comments on this. Everyone is different on this for sure as hand size and digit lengths are all over the board!
Correction: “T between lead hand thumb and index”. Mr Penick actually recommends the close thumb index opposition on both hands, but I seems to be that is a diofferent grip all together.
Eckhart
Thinking about the last swing analysis you sent me; for you in happens in the backswing; so see “miles markers for balance” and “how to match backswing to ball flight” videos
Shawn,
Long time member that still could not get over hitting the ball! I have tried different tasks, each would work but there was no consistency. A couple weeks ago I tried imagining that I had a ball on a string and all I wanted to do was to skim it along the ground. The change has been amazing! I have gained consistency and power. Now that I am not worried about making solid contact, I making solid contact. Thanks!
Right on Scott! You did it! You persevered with task based learning and slowly the brain made the necessary connections to bring it to reality. So pumped for you man!! 👍😀👌💪🤛
Shawn,
Now the ball is inconsequential. Before l so focused on the ball, it looked like the hitting area was tiny. Now it feels like the leading edge of my club can cut the grass an inch or two on both sides of the ball. That lets me swing with a lot of freedom. Thanks!
Shawn, this was a very powerful video for me. I, like Mu, struggle with hyperextending the trail leg in the back swing. I liked your discussion at 1635 about not fixing his swing. Like him at 1854, my posterior comes off the line often but i get good compression. Not 210 7i compression as I’m 53 but, from working on this in the offseason, I hope to get 165/170 out of a 7i come spring. In your opinion, does the posterior need to hug the line in the backswing/thruswing most of the time?
The very best AHA moment I had was when I saw my posture maintain itself naturally without thinking when doing the walking drill on a downhill lie. Try that! Film it!
see the most recent videos we did all 3 of us on that…mindblowing!! I then took it to the 2 swing drill and now have that in my “pre-motor cortex” just before I swing into my picture.
I started working with your program only a few days ago, love it and see already how much I could approve – but to be honest – it takes time and rehearsal. What I noticed today was, that a strong grip doesn’t automatically mean the club face is closed 🙂
My experience was (or is) that especially at the beginning you have to always check your grip as well as is the club face is opened or closed. When not using caution I tend to imagine I have a strong grip with a closed face, but in reality my face would be clearly open at impact. Please correct me if I’m wrong 😉
Hi Thomas! I often see as a teacher how a student will unknowingly shift the grip just before they swing; especially happens when they ground the club behind the ball; they feel a different balance in their hands and brain does not like it because it cannot predict what will happen. So to help the anxiety from that, it shifts back to what it feels comfortable with.
So after you see (if you have not done so yet) the “goldie locks series” and “predict contact” as well as “draw fine tuning”, when you are out hitting shots, after you take your grip and have established a grip-club relation strong enough where you feel the ball will draw back after you deliver to the right of the intermediate point, do not ground the club to give you any opportunity to re-grip and stay with the prediction process and just deliver your task completely and observe what happens. Also see the first video in “the consistency series” to see just how closed is still well acceptable! 😀👍
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