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Hello Shawn – new member here, do any of your videos talk about how the wind affects distance? I’m a right handed golfer and went to the range today to work on shaping my shots (while also tweaking my grip, per your advice), but was facing a 15 mph left to right cross wind. And it seemed like every time I tried to draw the ball, the ball went straight, but came up a bit short.
Also, hypothetically, how much difference in distance can we expect between draws and fades?
Hello and welcome! Yes, cross winds will affect the ball and the prediction process is what we use to determine the shot. When you draw into a left to right wind, which is the best way to approach the green, you need more club as the ball is fighting the wind on the way back, which will also straighten it out. We often see this at our academy as we don’t feel the wind in the building and the prevailing wind is left to right and as we see the ball fade a little, we look at the screen and see draw on the GC Quad.
We do have some examples in our on course videos about this; you will see them as you go.
fades vs draw for distance:
fade is about a full club less with short irons and wedges and won’t move much; about a half club less with mid irons and very little with the long irons and woods on a well struck shot.
Thanks! And am I right in assuming that the converse is true, that if are facing a right to left crosswind, a fade is the best way to attack the green? And I suppose the pin placement will matter as well …
Correct; but often you will see some situations where the draw is a great choice; it really is a gut thing; wind intensity will definitely be a determining factor.
Hi Shawn, on either fade or draw shot are you still employing the “braced tilt” setup?
Thanks a million. Great vid.
Hey Bailey! Sorry I missed this one; yes, the braced tilt is what naturally occurs when you want to deliver an action in the direction of the target. You will feel a smidge more on the fade to keep the low point in front of the ball because it is a tad more forward. Great videos for this are the “goldie locks series” and “predict contact” videos.
Great video, but I’m confused on closing the face. Do I take my normal grip (I use the grip you teach) then close the face or close the face then take my normal grip?
Close the face, then take the normal grip. If you turn the grip and the face at the same time, you don’t change anything. If you keep the grip where it is and turn the club closed while the grip stay put, then you are properly closing the face. This is why the grip is round! 😝
Shawn, Just as you open your stance for a fade to encourage the initial swing direction to the left (RH player), why would you not close your stance for the draw since you are wanting to swing out to the right. I would think the would help feeling getting behind the ball and encourage the initial swing direction to the right??? I’m sure tat you will have good rationale:-) Thanks, Otto.
Because of ball position! When you play the ball back of center, you are forcing the ball to naturally start to the right; so no need to aim there. Fade you play the ball forward, so that is different. See for driver the “great driver nugget” video and you will understand why you cannot do that with it.
Generally speaking. What is the difference in distance between a STRAIGHT draw and fade? Same question for the OVER draw and fade? For getting around obstacles ect?
Ok, let’s start with small curves;
Short irons can ONLY DO small curves with the fade and you will lose 1 club with wedges, 1/2 club with short irons, and nothing with 5 iron and down.
You can hook short irons and even wedges though and this will add a club in distance with wedges, a half club with short irons, and nothing with longer irons and woods…unless off the tee with the 3 wood; you can draw those very nicely and add about 10 to 15 yards.
Shawn