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Your instruction has really helped my game which I am again grateful. My newest dilemma is not being able to draw or fade the ball on my approaches using the intermediary point and picture of my target. For example, I want to draw the ball left to right into the green (I’m right hand dom. swinging left handed and watched your back-hander WRX series… good stuff). I will set up per your instructions with the ball in the back of my stance, throwing the club over the left side of the IP, and the ball goes straight left, landing on the opposite side of the green from where I “pictured” it drawing to. Same is reversed when trying to hit a fade right to left. Ball more in front with a slightly more open grip. I feel like I am sending the club right of the IP, but it goes straight, toward the right side/edge of the green, instead of fading back to the left. My assumption is I need to adjust something: my grip, ball position, alignment, etc. Do you have any suggestions on which variables I should start adjusting and dialing in or is going to be trial and error? Thanks,
-Tony
P.S. On a side note, let’s say I’m using a 6 iron above. Should the draw and fade distance be fairly close, or is the expectation you lose considerable yardage hitting a fade?
Not much loss with fade;
Just needs more tweaking and practice for the rest; it sounds like you are getting close!
Keep me posted; your descriptions are bang on and sounds to me like your backswing and downswing are just a bit too much from the inside in both cases!
Shawn
Hi Shawn, I have tried the draw/fade tips and can now work the ball a lot better. I just have a question on course management. Would you try and draw/fade every full shot on the course or do you sometimes try and hit straight shots.
Yes, you want to have a flight plan with every shot;
Where to start, where to end; even if it is just a yard; you have a plan.
Always a flavour to give the brain to chew on so it knows what to look for.
Hi Shawn,
I am having a real hard time understanding draws and fades setup. Specifically “getting behind ball” as you say. Do you have anymore video’s that walk through how to get “behind the ball”? Specifically being able to look down at draw set up as if I myself was standing in front of the ball would be awesome. In other words as if I was standing on a latter above you looking down at your draw setup.
Hey Paul! This is a job for the doorframe!
Set up a ball against the doorframe and for fade, a hair forward of center, you will already feel behind it and all you need to do if feel ready to squeeze against it with the weight of the arms and club.
Draw, when you play the ball back of center, and you stay square with the doorframe, you will feel something is missing; there is the feel of a reach back to squeeze into the doorframe. So keeping feet where they are, you pre-turn the rib-cage and pelvis from the knees up until you feel that you can apply some nice pressure into the doorframe; except the direction of the pressure will feel about 10 degrees right as if the nail you were driving in there was pointing 10 degrees right instead of straight in.
Shawn,
Thank you for the reply. Im a visual learner do you have a video on door frame or this setup? I can’t create a picture without seeing it. Really hoping you can help.
See this one: perfect!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGxjHBJvZac
Shawn,
Thanks this did it! Going to work on it today at the range. I must say I’ve been playing this great game for YEARS and NEVER come experienced such a straight forward way of learning golf as the way YOU teach. Really love your approach and style of teaching…bravo!👏👏👏
Thanks Paul! 😊
No Shawn, thank YOU! 😀
Excellent video. Two things I’m wondering about:
1. I prefer the feeling of lead hand releasing like an overhanded topspin shot in ping pong. Is this an accurate feeling of releasing towards my target for a fade?
2. With regards to grip and face angle. Am I to take my grip with the clubface slightly closed for fade and more closed for draw AND then get behind the ball at address with the perception of the face looking at my target?
Thanks Shawn!
Very good stuff!!
You are on the mark on all counts; as you were and keep going! 😀👍
Hi Shawn when you say draw grip/ fade grip are you simply referring to the club face being more open for the fade and more shut for the draw with the same gripping of the club as taught. Just a bit confused on that point. Thanks for the content
When delivering to the target and getting confirmation that you are, how is the ball flying?
Examples:
For fades, If consistently too much fade with a bit of glance, then the face is too open to start with.
For draw, if the feel of the speed is nicely past the ball with flush contact, and the ball starts a bit left and turns too much, then it is too closed.
Tweak the grip-clubface from your dynamic results; fine tune it this way.
Shawn