Being an inexperienced player, and having just discovered you guys, I wanted to obviously start correctly. Already in one week I have noticed a huge difference in contact and direction with difference varying on how often I get it close to right. So many thanks for that.
When you turn the grip to Sav’s grip position should the club face be back to square? In an older video of yours it looked like you had student really closing the club face in final address to draw the ball whereas I thought you just changed the ball position and swing right of your marker. Could have been a mistake on my part.
Regards Steve
Hi Steve! Great question!
the extreme version, which Mu started with, was very strong grip and very closed face (not for everyone) and then as his release got better with the “release” videos, he gradually came to strong grip and very slightly closed face. Savy is very strong grip but slightly open face because she loves the feel of the “locked in and torqued up sensation it gives her”. So instead of making her grip “weaker”, she keeps the super strong grip and simply opens the face. Mine, because I have a lot more seasoning in my release, is a nice strongish 3 knuckle grip where you will see my club face open at the top of the backswing but as soon as the kinetic chain kicks in, my right or trail elbow drops and affects the back of my lead wrist and brings it back to square glory without me thinking about it. The “goldie locks series” will help you fine tune this as well as the “draw fine tuning” videos. Enjoy!
As usual, you are spot on! Your buddies encourage you to hit that great big tee shot and you end up with a great big mess of a shot. Why – going for the MAX yardage instead of the smooth swing with less yardage in mind! This series is a very helpful reminder of how to bring your strain level under control during your round.
Happy New Year to all of you at Wisdom in Golf!
You always said effortless focused swing ‘out there’ through the intermediate point, ‘Out of the way….out of the way’. My VERY delicate focus means that this swing flavour is paramount to produce a nice attack angle/loft combo that produces nice ball compression across all the clubs. Biggest struggle is with fairway woods. Too steep and “helping”swing but correcting the irons helps with the correct sensation maintaining the kinetic swing.
Best wishes for you Shawn for 2023. Might get up to QC and touch base. Cheers.
Hey Jeremy! This series is well worth practicing! Huge range of motion in the backswing like in the “lead hand release in the backswing” video and then send grass clipping into the wind over the intermediate point with the sole of the club and hit it 150 yards; I dare you!😝
Love the routine but only you and Mu started behind the ball. I get lazy in practice at times and feel I can make adjustments without the rewind…. When it is my shot I need the #1 event to be …stand behind the ball and use my binocular vision to confirm my intermediate point that matches the shot direction and shape. WIG rules!! thanks..
Thank you for this series Shawn,all parts of the body in harmony … if you feel that your swing is good and you felt a real pleasure .thank you for all Shawn.happy new year .jj
I’ve been watching your videos on YouTube and on here.
I have a question on pre setting the closed club face or maybe not a question but problem.
I have a strong grip and hip tilt ,I pre set the club face as closed but I’m still getting a fade or sometime a slice . I’d love to see a baby draw.
The first time I tried this tilt and strong grip (right foot slightly back) normal club face prior to watching your channel, I was hitting bombs at the driving range , but haven’t been able to recreate it. I’m getting weak slices or power fades.
When I pre set the club face as closed by a bigger degree it seems to cause it to slice more …. If I close it as a experiment even more I get a duff hook shot 20 yards to the left.
Presetting the club faces makes sense to me, but can’t seem to get it to work the way you describe.
Any ideas or videos I should look at ? Also how do I upload the monthly swing analysis video?
Hi Michael! If you are an eagle member, go to the eagle exclusive section to upload the videos; send me face on and down the line of just the swings;
As for the issues you are having, this is common when you are STEERING the ball to the target instead of RELEASING the club in the direction you want to start the ball. Please see AND EXPERIENCE FOR YOURSELF, the “lead hand release”, “trail hand release”, Release fine tuning’, “snap release polish”, ‘turbo charge lead hand release” and “turbo charge trail hand release”, and “draw fine tuning”
Then as you get better at the releasing, then the grip and club face can be tweaked as you get good at drawing the ball.
Shawn, I’ve noticed you’ve switched to parking your eyes in front of the ball and sending the grass clippings from there as your task. Can you elaborate on what you’ve found the difference is from switching where you park your eyes to complete your sending grass clippings task? What advantage or difference do you personally find changes with the quality of your ball strike with where you park your eyes? How far in front of the ball are you looking? Does that distance change slightly from club to club? What type of typical “miss” do you notice looking in front vs behind the ball? Lots of questions I’m curious about as I’m still trying to find what task works best for me.
Hey Dave! Eyes in front for those who struggle getting through the ball; I like to test everything for my students. Eyes between ball and club I use for flop shots, fades and generally feel it easier to stay behind the ball. Eyes in front for sending grass clipping to target makes the follow through a bit more free. To cut out excess draw, eyes outside the ball and perform the spinner task. I love them all and the main thing is to use momentum to perform all these tasks.
I struggle with what you mean exactly by using “momentum” relating to how should it feel to use heavy momentum in a golf swing? Do you mean just letting gravity do the work with weight of arms and club from the top of a full relaxed backswing? as that doesn’t seem to work for me as I feel I have no power doing that or do you mean a slow, gradual acceleration of the club through? I understand the feel of throwing the club or trying to “whip the snot out of it” but I can’t attach a feeling to what you mean by using effortless momentum. Seems like my best strikes occur when I stay anchored “behind the ball or doorframe” and feel I am slowly driving through the ball with constant acceleration deep towards the target. Watching Cameron Young’s swing with his pause at the top and what looks like a very slow but extremely powerful acceleration deeply through the ball is the closest thing I can visualize to what you might mean. Can you explain the feeling of using momentum using other terms or feeling so it might click better with me please?
Yes, you touched on it with the Throwing of the club; see the “throwing series” and when you throw with momentum, it feels like you are stepping into it like happy Gilmore. Feel like you are walking and throwing!
We just got crushed by snow in Minnesota and I have limited access to a hitting bay/simulator. What might be some good videos or drills to look at to do in my living room? Thanks!
Yes, please see and perform all the “release” videos such as “lead hand release” and “trail hand release” and “release fine tuning” and “snap release polish” and
‘turbo charge lead hand and trail hand release”
BIG TIME IMPORTANT TO FEEL!
Reading the comments, I can see how we’re all trying to transition from position-based swings to task-based swings. I had to wait until the off season to completely disengage from what I had been taught, so I could embrace my new teacher, Shawn, 100%. I can’t say it’s been easy… sometimes I think I need therapy (haha). But Shawn, you are encouraging to your flock.
You can see a lot of AHA moments and from the swings I have seen lately, you are getting very close to your own! Stick with it! And while we are here, tell me what your task is and how you are using it to get through the ball?
Hi Shawn,
I had an “aha” moment my last range session focusing on a super slow, super wide, effortless full range of motion backswing while keeping the tilt at setup and staying what felt like several inches behind the doorframe completely through the shot. My task was performing a “slow” powerful throw of my trail hand “trigger” finger (like holding the clementine or skipping a flat stone) as deep as I could compressing with that “knife grip” as deep as possible through the tip of the tee to the target. The compression I felt when contacting the ball cleanly when doing that was amazing. I noticed the more I tried to stay well behind the doorframe for as long as possible the better the consistency and compression I achieved. I notice when I see you, Savannah and Mu hit the ball in slow motion from the face on view it looks like your head actually moves back away from the door frame ever so slightly as you come through the ball to your anchored release. Is actually searching for the feeling like my head is moving back slightly while actively trying to stay well behind the door frame and completing my throwing task a key confirmation I am most likely getting the most out of my kinetic chain? The ball flight seems to indicate so. I’m trying not to think of too many things at once so it simplifies to “stay behind the ball for as long as possible and throw the trigger finger slow and powerful deep to the target”. Thoughts on any pitfalls this line of thinking may generate?
Thanks as always for such great content!
Dave Pike
YOU HAVE ARRIVED IN WONDERLAND. The head piece will develop on it’s own as you continue to evolve with the task you are describing-a very specific feel into a very specific direction guided by the IP into that flight plan. CONGRATS ON STAYING WITH IT and looking forward to more feedback from you soon! 👍🫶👌💪👊
Shawn. Fantastic video. Using the weight of the arm/club weight unit and Goldilocks to guage distance is amazing. Steve Stricker, eat your heart out. One question: you often refer to the throwing the club videos. I would love to but I live in a condo and my neigbors would object. Is there a way to simulate throwing the club (medicine ball) in a very limited space?
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