Hi Shawn,
After watching this video in addition to your advice on completing the turn, I finally feel like I could emulate your move when you stop at the top of the backswing and hit a ball from there (and I feel like I have much more control through the swing). Is there any benefit to doing this ‘stop at the top as a drill’ as a drill to really reinforce that sense of structure and balance in the whole swing?
Hi Philip! Good stuff!
Yes, on both counts. We use the stop at the top to confirm that we are still in balance (mile markers for balance) or that we have enough backswing to whip the club with ease or that we are in a position to whip in the direction we want to start the ball (video 4 of consistency series)
The natural pause comes from when you are NOT FIGHTING with the weight of the arms and club and you are using that weight to perform the task like a good old lumberjack with his trusty axe. This is what you want to strive for. But if you stop at the top, it is to confirm that you are where you need to be to deliver ALL THE WAY THROUGH WITH EASE TOWARDS THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO START THE BALL.
Ha, I tried working on this and was getting 10-15 yards more on each club because my kinetic chain is now connecting. My 7 wood carried 215 yards by the end – 230 yards total, and my driver was up to 270 (and straighter than previously). I need to work on this drill more!! Thanks Shawn
I’m trying to create a consistent top of backswing that is repeatable and secure. I tend to over-swing which I believe has to do with sometimes over hinging my wrists. I’m right handed and have tried to have my right thumb be on the left side of the shaft (along for the ride) vs being on top. But the problem I run into is at the top of the swing the golf shaft doesn’t feel secure and will actually fall in between my index finger and my right thumb. To prevent this movement I feel better with my thumb on top of shaft. Can I work with this thumb position or do other fingers need to apply pressure? I can send a picture if needed.
I have developed triceps tendonitis. I’m not certain but it may be from coming over the top. I cannot preform the first grip acid test with my lead arm without considerable pain. Do you have any advice?
Hey Josh!
You are the first case I have encountered so far!
I have had golfer’s elbow a couple times in my 40 years and it is no fun at all; the last time I did have it, acupuncture did a great job for me; so try and find a sports therapist that uses acupuncture well.
Over the top issue? Not likely as that issue is one of the most common issues out there and to my knowledge has never lead to tricep tendonitis;
Keep strain levels down to 2/10 and velocity at 6/10 for a while and open up the hip turn in the backswing to not aggravate the condition.
Your instruction has really helped my game which I am again grateful. My newest dilemma is not being able to draw or fade the ball on my approaches using the intermediary point and picture of my target. For example, I want to draw the ball left to right into the green (I’m right hand dom. swinging left handed and watched your back-hander WRX series… good stuff). I will set up per your instructions with the ball in the back of my stance, throwing the club over the left side of the IP, and the ball goes straight left, landing on the opposite side of the green from where I “pictured” it drawing to. Same is reversed when trying to hit a fade right to left. Ball more in front with a slightly more open grip. I feel like I am sending the club right of the IP, but it goes straight, toward the right side/edge of the green, instead of fading back to the left. My assumption is I need to adjust something: my grip, ball position, alignment, etc. Do you have any suggestions on which variables I should start adjusting and dialing in or is going to be trial and error? Thanks,
-Tony
P.S. On a side note, let’s say I’m using a 6 iron above. Should the draw and fade distance be fairly close, or is the expectation you lose considerable yardage hitting a fade?
Not much loss with fade;
Just needs more tweaking and practice for the rest; it sounds like you are getting close!
Keep me posted; your descriptions are bang on and sounds to me like your backswing and downswing are just a bit too much from the inside in both cases!
Shawn
as usual this makes perfect sense; and to get maximum velocity we need to see the blur because it shows us where our body naturally wants us to position ourselves. Brilliant.
Shawn I am new to your site. I have not seen any info as far as where the butt of the club should be. Does it change from the short irons to the Driver. I was used to always position the butt of the club in the middle of my body or sternum. When I see you hitting the driver it looks like its pointing to your lead shoulder.
That information is not important at all; the old guard of golf instruction would have you believe it is but the truth is that we are terrible at body part and club part positioning. However, when you are getting ready to use the weight of the grass whip to cut through the dandelion stem with ease and velocity, you will always find your contact!
You don’t need to know where the butt of the axe is when chopping down a tree or splitting wood right? Neither would you to cut grass with a grass whip!
Same for golf.
Best is to see which task works best for you; throwing the club? Squeezing ball through the door frame with weight of hammer? Whipping through a dandelion stem?
See “top 3 tasks” and “task trumps everything” videos on premium.
Thank you so very much. This is just what I needed. I used this preshot routine during my last round of golf and it really made the difference. It is easy to produce great shots on the range but on the golf course it is harder. I have bee searching for a drill or routine to help me stay focused on the task and this was it!
I have been following your teaching for three years now and with the help of your videos I have dropped my handicap from 12 to 8. There is still room for improvement, though. My goal is to be able to play sub 80 rounds on a regular basis. I appreciate your knowledge of the anatomy and the physiologically sound and safe way to swinging the club. As a senior golfer I have been glad to make my swing more healthy and get rid of lower back problems. Plus I have gained much distance especially with the irons. Looking forward to your next video. Happy Midsummer!!
Thanks Shawn! I’m one hour away from teeing off in big tournament, and this pre-shot routine is exactly what I needed! I tend to be too careful / steer the ball / worry about making mistakes. I’ll let it all go this morning!
Played In first tournament since going to this method. Any help with the transition. I really struggled with the kinetic action on the downswing. Never really got into a rhythm where my lower body was initiating the downswing. Lots of good shots hit, but very inconsistent. Any suggestions welcomed. Thanks
Very good! You are on your way!
More curve will need to have more club face opening or closing; keep matching it to the flight plan and use the prediction process to confirm before you engage the task into the direction you want to start the ball.
Shawn
Here is the full focus sequence; practice this for every shot on the range and get good with it!
1-pick an “end target” or a place you want to have the ball end up
2-pick a flight plan that fits your ability to get the ball there; please INCLUDE THE HEIGHT OF THE SHOT or peak trajectory before it falls back down towards the end target. Be clear about the option-if not, goldie-locks the options.
3-find an intermediate point that will set you up into that picture from behind-MASSIVELY IMPORTANT TO TRUST ONCE YOU PICK FOR YOU TO LINE UP AND TO DELIVER THE ACTION.
4-PREDICT CONTACT AND DIRECTION BEFORE YOU LET THE SWING GO.
so that when you let your action release itself to the target, you can predict that the ball position, the distance to the ball, the posture, and the grip-club face relationship will fit the flight when you let the swing track itself into the direction you want to start the ball.
Predictions video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieQF5GjxzFs
5-EXECUTION
set up done? Prediction of shot done? It is now OUT of YOUR CONTROL, just give control to gravity and let the weight of the ARMS AND CLUB OR WEIGHT OF SWING release itself in the direction you want to START the ball (ON THE SIDE OF THE
INTERMEDIATE POINT YOU CHOSE). Look for the feel of that low effort and nice whipping velocity that unleashes that ball into that flight with freedom and trust. Abandon control to the task.
6- DID YOU LET IT?
DID you stay with the feel of that release to that direction? Or did you get distracted by “making sure” of a position or something else making noise or commotion around you? How do you know for a fact that you stayed with it?
If you stayed with it:How was the strain level mentally and physically?
Was it hard or easy?
If you did not stay with it, something short circuited you and you were trying to do something else; what was that you were trying? What were your concerns?
7-The most important stat in golf THAT TRUMPS ALL STATS is how many times (there are average 36 full swings on the golf course) were you able to stay with your shot all the way to the finish? Can You CONFIRM WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT YOU felt the release of the club in the direction you wanted to start the ball?
IF YOU CANNOT CONFIRM THAT YOU STAYED WITH THE SHOT, YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME TRYING TO FIX YOUR SWING THAT IS NOT BROKEN;
Just wanted to update. Took above advice and practiced hard. Played in four ball tourney this past weekend. I did follow my plan for over half my shots. Those turned out as “predicted”. Just have to keep working on letting go of control. One question I have in regards to working the ball. Had some pretty sharp doglegs this weekend. When needing more cut or draw do you recommend opening and closing face more or using more angle with path? Thanks for the great instruction. I’m excited about golf. Love to compete and golf gives us that opportunity as we age. Thanks again!!
I can “open the machine” up with the driver and produce adequate results. But with the irons, I need to move my left butt/hip first to start the swing to produce adequate results. My golf IQ is IM a right-handed golfer and I can shoot legitimate boogie golf off the gold tees for 9 holes. If I really “open the machine”, unless I really concentrate not to, I will come down like a mad lumberjack trying to chop a cannonball into two pieces. :>
Is it ok to “open the machine up” starting with my right butt/hip area?
It is the delivery of the energy of the machine that is important now; WE DON’T WANT EFFORT OR STRAIN, WE WANT RANGE OF MOTION!!
Use a wide arc to cut through the stem of the dandelion ALONG THE GROUND, towards the target and NOT towards the ball.
See the “task trumps everything” and the “top 3 tasks” as well as the “Hammer drill” video in premium.
Hi Shawn, big big fan. Everything you teach makes so much sense. I’ve been following your YouTube and now premium context for maybe a week or so. I hit my 3 wood 206 m from the deck yesterday (tracked using Arccos) and I literally never pull it out of the bag. Probably because I used to hit it 150m and right, and actually had no idea what I was trying to make the club do. Everything is finally beginning to make sense. It must annoy you so much to see other pros teach in such crazy unintuitive ways. Anyway, I’ve now started working on my release which I only just found out wasn’t actually very good following a good crack at your sword drill. My main question is, should my swing feel ultra fast? I mean, compared to swinging at the ball? I’m almost scared I’ll lose the club! Not exerting myself much at all when I make a released swing. Not even sure I can do it any slower! I’m going to have to work on making my base stable to handle the new horsepower!
Thanks for your contribution to golf Shawn. You’ve made the lightbulb turn on and I am very appreciative.
The hole grip series is Wonderful.
After the Video “tile markers” i tried to feel the release and/or the hinge. I wasn’t able any more. So took i Video from my self. I noticed suddenly i have been past parallel in the backswing. I looked along the club to my hand, and there was a gap between my lead hand and the handle. I was struggling with a little cold to, so my strength was lacking too.
I changed to interlock and revisited the grip series.
After that my kinetic chain is working better then ever. My weight shift ist Jumping with so much Velocity. My Swing is elevated in a whole new Dimension.. I don’t Need to think of anything else, as the target and my flight plan any more.
My swing is now really effortless, less strain and more distance. It’s a Little bit like magic.
I really whanna thank you for your teachings, they are Wonderful, and besides better than any teacher i had physically in front of me in my life.
Christoph
Hi Shawn
This is really helping me. I’ve improved by balance at the top of the swing a lot, but I find that I can have a tendency to be a little bit too much outside my left foot on the follow through. What’s the best way to tackle this? I don’t want to focus on body parts during the swing. Any suggestions?
The walking drill video on premium; no choice but to stay inside otherwise you can’t walk!! Get the feel there and slowly incorporate into the swing!
Shawn
Are there two catapults in the downswing, the first powered by the rear end and the second powered by the shoulders at about 7:30 which slings and releases the second pendulum. I seem to have trouble with my woods and hybrids in consistently keeping the kinetic flow at this point of my downswing, but when I do I carry the ball much further.
I would not say the shoulders as they are pretty fixed in there; but the legs to ground is the delivery of the second pendulum in the wrists; see “golf has 2 pendulums shawn clement” on youtube;
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