If you hold your arms out in front of you as if you at neck height in full extension; then bring the palms together, how are the elbows pointing? My elbows point at my hips and the inside of the elbows point 45 degrees up towards the sky.

Yeah man! Get both! You will see the benefits big time; and the soreness is from strain in the swing; keep the strain or effort level at 3/10 to get 7/10 in speed and compression.

Good awareness! See the tasks that will hold you to the target and make sure you have that intermediate point dialled in!

Hey Cliff!
Don’t think about how flat or upright the shoulders need to be; just the task of cutting through the grass IN BOTH DIRECTIONS will put you on plane and as you swing in both directions without stopping, you will get into a nice rhythm of getting out of the way with a nice full turn of the backside in each direction.

That sounds like the Right feel and description; even when the ball is there, you still feel the peak speed past the ball?

Hi, please name these “combo” videos. thnx V.

How sweet is that Rob! Way to go! 👍😀💪

Sounds like you Are simply opening the face too much on the fade; with driver, there should be no loss of distance unless you have 10.5 degrees or more on the face. The rest is prediction: see “goldie locks series” videos and “predict contact” as well as “fade fine tuning” and “draw fine tuning”
Shawn

Right on man! Thank you for the great comment; this will help many!
The good news is you have a nice inefficient grip to compare the efficient grip to and your brain lit up like a full harvest moon and gave you this exquisite feedback; congrats!!!

Goldilocks is a beautiful thing!

Great stuff Shawn! Not a matter of if but a matter of when! 😀👍
See my latest “hammer throw driver” video on premium!

I wish you had a shot tracer so we could see the shot shape.

Experimenting with a couple apps right now…it should get better soon!
Shawn

Hi Mitch!
Just yesterday in my Florida group, I had a good player who was hitting his clubs very well and when he got to the Driver, he was hitting them to the right; then as I was getting to him to help, I could see that he was starting to manipulate his hands and wrists to make the club close.
I told him by then, it was too late to even try to close the face; and it just means that the face was too open to begin with.
He said, the face looked closed; but because the ball is forward in the stance, it LOOKED CLOSED when the club was beside it; when I brought the club back to center, and made him square with the club, his grip was way less strong than with the rest of the clubs and I closed it by turning it closed in his hand.
Next 10 drives were 20 yards longer, penetrating, 2 to 5 yard draws. He could not believe it and is very happy now.
It does not matter what it looks like to you. All you want is for when you swing THROUGH THE BALL into the picture past the intermediate point that the ball flies the way you want WITHOUT MANIPULATION.

Same thing for me as your Florida friend; had to strengthen my driver grip because of the extra lag I am getting with the “battering ram”.

Had 2 students have the same deep aha moment on the range today! 😀👍

Yes! Very good!

Do you still advocate a very strong grip with the face closed like your earlier videos. Dynamic gathering of the ball.

Yes!! However this varies for the individual. Most are still way too weak to have any chance at delivering THROUGH THE BALL AND OUT TO THE TARGET. The final judge is when you can confirm a complete release well past the ball and into the picture and the ball is flying the way you want it to without any manipulations.

Thank you Ron! It sounds like you are pretty much spot on for the grip-club relation. Next is the delivery of the release in the direction you want to start the ball; letting the weight of the club release you in that direction. See “lead hand release” and “trail hand release” as well as “release fine tuning” and “fade fine tuning” and “draw fine tuning”
Shawn

This answer is the continuation of the message of “body part positioning is a disaster in the making”
It starts with the flight plan and then choosing a nice intermediate point to help match the set up to the picture of this flight plan. You can go about it With the original structure of wisdom in golf or re-position the feet in a way that will allow you to maximise your range of motion in the backswing and have a better platform in the follow through to support the release in the direction you want to start the ball.

The end result is the ball starts easily on the line you want it to start on and then curves the way you want it to curve to the end target. To think about where the shoulders and hips are would not be productive because it is all perception and we suck at it!! All we want to know is: does this allow me to deliver that way with ease and velocity and does the swing naturally want to move in this direction?

Shawn

Very important!! When you get ready to jump up onto something like when you jump up on top of a rock or boulder, you use the swing of the arms upwards to do this right? Same applies here in the backswing; other players who do this well are Bubba, Jack, Tom Watson, Justin Thomas, Fred Couples, Davis Love etc…see some of those swings in the backswing!

Ok, good question.
1-the last thing in your mind you see when looking at the hole is the moving picture of a ball rolling into the hole from about 3 feet out at the speed you are looking for it to enter
2-you would then be bringing the eyes back to the ball and then react to what you saw by LETTING THE WEIGHT of the arms and putter as a unit roll the ball into that picture.

Imagine you and I playing soft ball and we are 10 feet apart and I ask you to gently toss the ball underhand to make it land softly into the palm of my hand facing the sky. Now, what did you do to start it?? Notice this is not a question for the conscious mind at all?? You simply reacted to what you saw and used a machine that runs at 40 million bits of info per second and then maybe caught a glimpse with the conscious mind which works at 40 bits per second and one single thing at a time. And shoulders should not be thought of either at all during this process either of course.

I have another putting video coming soon to premium that will elaborate on this; it will be kicking off the off season “state of flow” series which will be some of my most important work yet!!😀👍

thx for your tips concerning my putting. There is something else that happened when exercising this uncontrolled putting stroke. Unconsiously i started putting with little movement out of my knees as i use now with in my swing and chipshots. Since i follow your techniques I am called ‘the dancer’ and it feels fantastic to swing in this rhythmical way. The knees as motor for putting. I found that i started putting with more rhythm and holed more putts. For the longer puts i see you are moving too. What do you think about this knee movement for short putts.?

As long as you don’t think about your knees! You simply allow the legs to do what they want to do while you allow the weight of the arms and putter to roll the ball into the picture you chose. 😀👍