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i completely understand the swing arc as it pertains to the irons and where to play in my stance but when i play my driver forward in stance , i struggle with hitting pull draws . isn’t the swing arc going to the left when the ball is played forward? i struggle getting the ball started to the right
Hey Scott! Ooooh do I have the best video coming in 2 weeks for this!! It takes care exactly what this question is about and you will love it!
When setting up for the draw on the driver, AND YES, BECAUSE THE BALL IS MORE FORWARD, you need to support the arc of the swing BEYOND THE BALL so this requires a diagonal stance arrangement or a more “closed stance”
This completely completes the understanding of Ben Hogan’s set up in his 5 Modern Fundamentals book.
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Hi Shawn,
1) When you say you “aim” at the pin (for a draw) – do you mean to say the clubface is aimed at the pin at address? Or your feet are aligned at the pin at address (but clubface is now aimed left of the target)?
2) Where do you aim the clubface for a draw or a fade?
Thanks!
Draw: SET FEET PARALLEL LEFT OF TARGET, BALL BACK OF CENTER, RELEASE RIGHT OF TARGET
I would like to understand the closed face for the draw and less closed he fade. The face looks square at address to me. Is that because your hands are forward at address? My understanding of Trackman is that ball starts at about 70 to 75% of where face is at impact and curves away from the path. I understand how to hit a draw the way you talk about it. But I do not understand the set up and face for a fade.
Do you ever get out in the western United States to teach?
Thanks Chip
Hey Chip!
That is because everyone thinks statically!! Dustin Johnson’s club face is 45 degrees more closed than the average guy and he plays a fade!! Closed at address does not mean closed during the swing; you knownthe hands come through first in the swing as you deliver to the target; if you deliver AT THE BALL, that is different!
Also, just finishing my week in LA and Phoenix; going home tomorrow; will be back in early March
I have questions regarding just how closed the face is for the draw and how open the face is for the fade. Could you do a close up of the set up showing the face ‘neutral’ then show the face closed and then slightly open for the fade?
As an aside, I have been playing for nearly 60 years now and am finding your teaching really refreshing. Just wish I hadn’t spent so many years paying for instruction that really didn’t help me substantially. Thanks for your clarity in instruction. I’m really enjoying the simplicity of this approach and have already started seeing improvement in my ball striking and a gain in distance. Thought it was inevitable that moving into my 60s that things would diminish. I’m heartened. Any chance you’ll get down to the Atlanta area this fall or early spring?
Open or closed is all dependant on the individual; and it is done dynamically and not statically.
You allow the club to release you in the direction you want to start the ball and see how it flies! Not enough draw? Close the face more. Too much draw? Close the face less…
Send me an email and I will keep you posted as to the details of when I head back to South Carolina-Georgia area [email protected]
Shawn
Thanks
The flight scope generated path arc seems to clearly indicate the low point on the draw swing is well in front of the ball but more or less at the ball with the fade (i.e., lower angle of attack). What adjustments are needed to control the height of the shot?
Draw set up + fade grip = low push fade?
Also, and this one continues to confuse me, assuming you have right grip for the shot (appropriately closed when in neutral) does it matter how open or closed or square it is at address (i.e., how you rotate the arm club unit)?