Really enjoyed this series. A variant of this would be to have you coach someone in the 18-25 handicap range through 3 holes to see what questions you would ask them and how they approach a shot/hole. (or maybe for for 25+?)
The concluding remarks in this video were quite helpful. It got me think because my sense is a higher handicap with a lesser skill set has to approach a hole different so they can have less stress about their shot and task. (Even the comment above was a gold nugget…about gauging if you go for it…if you feel like it is on the edge then it opens you up to the possibility of strain. Makes a lot of sense.)
For example, how do you break apart a hole if you can’t hit a 220 4 iron? (I think that was in the 2nd video!) A higher handicap has to account for a wider spray angle, more obstacles that get in the way for their shot shape (maybe they only have 1 shot shape that day?), maybe look for the best place to favor in case of a miss. (how do you pick that?) Resetting themselves after a bad miss. I know it is a long list.
What I appreciated most was how you explain your process and how you are approaching a hole. Can’t remember which one it was but you mentioned some obstacles you were trying to avoid so you picked a club that would make that possible. It was now a low stress shot for you.
The short of it is, as you go through a hole, you know answers because you know the better/important questions to ask. It would be helpful to see what questions you ask a lesser skilled/experienced golfer about their approach to a hole once they explain what they are thinking in their approach. We could learn from what you ask them regarding their approach given their skill set. My guess is there are things they are not paying attention to that are important for them with their skill set to have a better round.
I guess this is getting toward the mental approach of golf and more tactical but does that make sense?
Would a round of with a 220 driver, 200 3 wood, 190 5 wood, 180 3 iron or 7 wood, 170 4 hybrid, 160 5 iron, 150 6 iron, 140 7 iron, 130 8 iron, 120 9 iron, 110 PW, 100 gap wedge 90 sand wedge and 80 Lob wedge from the white tees work?
As an aside really enjoying the Jammie Lett videos on Youtube. Sometimes hearing the same thing applied then explained in a slightly different way by someone else who understands, just locks in the concept. Good find!
I get a lot out of these vlogs Shawn, thanks. A question about the par 5s. They are my nemesis right now. I am usually a good long iron player, but I just always try too hard when attempting to get on in 2. I’ve had better scores laying up to a wedge yardage I’m comfortable with. But then I feel pretty bummed out for not trying. I’ll usually have about 240y in or something like that. What’s the best here? Do you always go for it no matter what, and take your chances? I’m off 9 now and feel that I need to make more of the par 5s to progress.
Great question! Now, if you feel you need to flush it to get there on that second shot, you are setting yourself up to STRAIN. You must feel that you have plenty of club to get there if you just LaDeeDa it in the direction you want to send it. If you say, let’s try to get out there as far as possible and see if we get there, you are already straining mentally and this will have an effect on the timing of the swing and the kinetic chain will sputter…. GET THERE WITH EASE, both mental and physical! 👍👊👌😎
Wonderful ;i planed to press 5 for rating but that doesn’t work and stop at 1;thank you Shawn it’s seem so important to feel différents tense and pression on the grip;thank you and happy anniversary ;jj
Great video! I struggled with an over the top move for a couple years, and have pretty much eliminated that from my swing, especially since finding your channel and only following your instruction now. My anti over the top move does have me missing with a fairly regular big block ~15 degrees or so right (right handed). The ball starts there and stays there. I have a very strong grip now (Savvy grip). I know it is a big assumption without seeing my swing, but assuming I am releasing to the right of my intermediate point, with a strong enough grip, does my issue sound like a release issue? I have always felt a bit under active with my release. Not sure if I should try to go even stronger with my grip, or work on a better release…. I don’t think I can strengthen my grip much more, as I am feeling a lot of tension in my left forearm already. I love the work you you all are doing!!
Work on the release for sure! See the “snap release polish video”
then work on fades! So many golfers overdo the anti-over the top inside to outside and develop a whole other set of problems! Simply throwing the club through the arc-blur to the right edge or left edge for fade is IMPOSSIBLE TO GO OVER THE TOP. When throwing the club, the club lags behind the hands and has NO CHOICE but to come from the inside. If you add YOUR anti over the top on top of that it become overkill.
Why was over the top a problem in the first place? Target was ball. Change the target, and the way to get there, and no more over the top.
I’ve been trying to figure out the golf swing for a year and a half now. In my heart I always knew it (the swing) was an intuitive move but I could never find someone who could teach it that way, and I never was able to figure it out myself. (Just turn the hips. HOW DO I TURN MY HIPS lol) I had watched your videos on and off but everything you said seemed a little different than what the “mainstream” teaches (positions rather than actions that get you into these positions) so I kind of passed you by.
For whatever reason I knew what you were teaching was right and your teaching would get through to me. I’m through the grip lessons and on to this video and everything makes perfect sense. I’m no longer chasing feels in the swing, I’m thinking about hitting the ball differently.
Anyways – the point of this post – This video! Lightbulb moment for me! When I started getting behind the ball in my setup (basically sticking my butt ahead, it feels like cheating) my backswing and turn became so effortless and powerful. Before I had to make a conscious effort almost to turn my chest to the back and then raise my arms in front of my chest, then once I lost this sensation I found my arms getting pinned against my chest and just feeling restricted. And I could never feel comfortable over the ball. Now all I have to think is a high outside takeaway and throwing the club at the target. Its amazing.
I have so much of this material to go through, I cant wait to hear what you have to say about short game and putting. Just wanted to say thanks, I’m positive you’re going to change my golf game.
You bet Justin! And you will enjoy the short game and putting for sure as it relates immediately to the full swing. Looking forward to more feedback! Enjoy “using the weight in your swing-axe drill with Savy” and “backswing levitation” and “the throwing series” and “kinetic chain facilitation series” just to name a few that work with what you are describing here. Oh, a couple more: “how to match backswing to ball direction”, “blur of club” and all the “arc blur unstoppable momentum” videos…👌👍
Hi Shawn- Working diligently on the drills. I find when I “throw” the club w the ball in the way, my lower back feels a fair amount of strain on the follow through. Do you think this is bc I’m spinning out and not releasing the club properly?.
Hi Shawn, making my way through these fundamental videos – tons of information to process! I’m just wondering if there is a condensed beginning to end series? There are a lot of videos that seem to cover the same topics, just need a little help navigating.
Wow, such a subtle thing like focusing on my glutes and quads in the swing, let me realize that I was not in balance. I realized the pressure at address had drifted into the balls of my feet, like so much “traditional” instruction tells you. By engaging my lower body, it really centered me and gave me that “suction cup” feel that Shawn has mentioned about the feet. I hit my driver so solidly with this feel. That dang club has been my nemesis for sooo long. I think the forward pressure was causing me to lose my balance toward the ball and I was having to early extend to not fall forward. Thank you Shawn!
Thanks for the awesome lesson again! I have a quick clarification – How do we maintain good grip pressure but at the same time swing with ease? At times I find it challenging to separate the two “feelings”.
Great question and the reason for these 2 videos; tomorrow’s post will improve on that some more; secure is the key; feeling like when you deliver the full throw with ease that the grip will respond easily and not break down in the swing; that is when it feels strenuous.
If I don’t get anything else out of my premium membership Shawn the grip videos have made a big impact on my golf. I’ve struggled for years with my hands not working together and never understood why. That has all changed for the better. Thank you!
Ok I’ve finally had a glorious ah ha moment twice over the past two days… and not in the order you’d expect.
While having a range session yesterday and struggling with my longer irons I remembered how much throwing the clubs resonated with me. Funny thing is I had never actually thrown clubs, but I’ll address that soon. I had watched so many of your videos here and on YouTube about throwing the clubs and a small detail came to mind. I remembered during your session with Mu how you talked about throwing the club 30 yards to the left(I’m right handed, so right for me) would accomplish the goal of sending the club correctly down the target line. I was sick of struggling with my 5 iron and lined up with my intermediate point with these thoughts in mind. Once I had got into posture and stood over the ball, my focus was on a tree down range about 30 yards right of my intent. I ignored the ball and strictly focused on throwing the club towards that tree way right as I setup for a draw. What happened next shocked me. I already thought I had good distance for being “self taught” , but whenever I kept my focus on throwing out right I proceeded to hit rockets on line. My best being a 225 yard carry with my 5 iron which seems ridiculous (Albeit I do play with game improvement irons, 3rd year golfer, and I’m pretty sure the manufacturer lists my 5 iron at 22 degrees). My misses were a result of blacking out, but when I stayed with the task of throwing “way right” I could hear others in awe of my compression and swing and marvel, along with myself, at the flight and distance of ball.
Today I finally decided to actually take it upon myself and throw clubs in a nice open park nearby. I grabbed my teenagers well worn clubs and used the lines of the soccer fields to gauge my progress. Keeping the same swing thoughts from the previous day, sure enough I had a few go high and left but for the most part many of them landed on or right of my target line. Is landing right as big of an issue as high and left? I know that when I landed left it meant the release was early or I got ahead of the throw. What does it mean when I’m right of the target line? Is it as bad? The biggest feel that I got from the exercise was that I need my trail shoulder to come underneath in order to get the desired club path as opposed to coming across or around. It’s insane once I begin to realize how wrong I’ve been doing things. There’s no way that sending my efforts that far right should produce the results I witnessed. Thanks for all yo do, I’m truly grateful for investing my time and money into your methods now.
Right on Jason! You just went next level both mentally and physically and good on you for taking the time to HONE THE TASK OF THROWING CLUBS. Massive enlightenment for those who do! Enjoy your new found perception of alignment and delivery of direction (for those who did not see “alignment reload” get it done, must see)
looking forward to hearing about your next breakthroughs! Shawn
Still in my first season, last weekend solely from your instructions I shot a 42 at 9 hole corse. I’ve never broken 100 or 90 before. I’m still high off excitement. My short game was where I needed the most improvement. I lost 6 storks at-least because of these type of shots. I can’t wait to practice.
Whoa! That is huge! Congratulations and yes, if you left that much on the table with short game, can’t wait to hear about your next benchmarks! And please, see our chipping videos and pitching and flop shots and bunker shots and putting; they are not only the best in the business by far, they blend in fully and seamlessly with the full swing instruction! See “kinetic chain series” after the main chipping video. It has all except putting in there for the full understanding.
Here I am for the tasks assigned 🙂 All very clear, I can finally feel what you explain with the sensations of the body. It seems to me that I have more feeling if I keep the stance a little open. Maybe the backswing levitation seems to be a bit shorter but upon release I feel the body release, feeling the weight, arms and stick more naturally. If, on the other hand, I exaggerate in wanting to open my hips in the backswing, more than I feel necessary to bring the iron up, I happen to hit the ball in the head or in the middle. I have to exercise
Hey Tom! See the “throw the club” and the “throwing series”
You want to throw the club far but with momentum and not force; so you need a full range of motion to do this. See “lead hand release in the backswing” video to gather and then you will feel that it’s easy to throw farther!
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