Hi Shawn, Really enjoying the content. I tried this out yesterday at the range and it was working well. I noticed on the draws that the ball was coming out a bit lower than I’d like. Especially the longer irons. Otherwise I was mostly on line and creating the draw shape I’d like. Should I tilt more if I’d like a higher draw? It could be the cold temperatures here atm, but I felt I was losing carry on 6 iron and below on draw shots. Thanks, Dan
Right on Daniel! This will bear a lot of fruit later! As for height, this is why fades and draws on the longer clubs end up going the same distance and the fade gets you more carry on low to medium height shots and then when you get really confident, YOU GET TO CHOOSE the HEIGHT you want to send the draws up into. Simply match the set up; which would have the ball less back in the stance and more centred and even a smidge forward for the very high ones. For Driver Draw, if you have issues with toe shots and pull hooks because you can’t seem to get all the way through, see the “great driver nugget” and the “diagonal stance series” which gives you more anatomically sound options! 😀👍
Thank you Shawn. Much appreciated. This has helped the draws a lot and I feel confident with them now. Fade on the other hand I find trickier with the longer clubs. It feels like I come over the top when I try to chop the dandelion (and throw the club) to the left of my marker. I catch some well for straight fades, some I catch heavy and some slice (usually when I’ve been testing with opening the grip some more). Any tips and or videos to not come over the top when trying to fade?
Good, this is common; and we are never trying to “make the ball fade” with our swings; the set up creates the fades and all we want to do is “throw the club into the direction we want to start the ball. Backswing needs to match so see “how to match backswing to ball direction” and alignment must match as well otherwise you have to come over the top if the alignment is not left enough.
Depends! When you get a full release on the target side of the ball like in the “target confirmation series videos” are you getting the ball flight you are looking for?
Shawn
I have an odd thing going on with my swing that I’ve recently found since purchasing a GC3. For all of my irons/hybrid clubs, i have a nice in to out swing path. But for my driver, i have an out to in swing path and can’t seem to catch it clean. Will this drill help with that? Is there another lesson i should be reviewing as well to fix that in to out path with driver that’s causing my slice?
I’ve had this issue as well. For me it was caused by the ball being too far forward relative to the center of your swing. I would then hit it with poor contact or had to lunge forward to reach, causing change in the arc. It sounds like you could easily rule that out – move it back and try to make the same swing with the otherwise same setup and see if your path is read differently!
A huge issue for my golf swing was that I never understood (or that at least never clicked) via WiG videos how to feel the proper rotation in the golf swing. What I found was that I needed to do was
take my normal knee bend to heave heavy stuff
take my neutral WiG grip with a super closed face on the club
hold the club straight out. Pretend I’m hitting off the high tee, or slashing the sword through a waist-height bamboo, with the toe of the club staying up as long as possible throughout the swing.
At the end of the backswing, there was no swaying, perfect weight shift, loaded arms and my head and body tilt happens automatically! Then I take the ‘tee’ down a bit lower and continue. I started to understand how the arm levitation happens at the end of the rotation, and how momentum now comes into play when we’re dealing with an inclined rotation. After this I would take it to full golf posture and pretend I’m cutting through bamboo or stem or tee or compressing the volleyball with the toe of the club staying high just the same as doing it shoulder level.
Once I had this benchmark for what centered rotation really felt like and plugged it into perpetual motion, light bulbs went off. I know feet together and the perpetual motion should help with this type of thing but for some reason after many hours of trying, I didn’t make this leap until understanding through the way I described.
This leads into how the task of spinning things seems feels the same to me as cutting through things but with keeping the toe up – the deeper your spin the longer the toe of the club stays up (as in, makes the release later because the toe turning to the left means the forearms are rotating and hands turning over)
Anyways, I would like to put forth this concept to help understand the golf swing is just the same as turning ‘level’ but on an inclined plane! Hope this helps someone as much as it helped me.
The above post describes the “horizontal swing drill” I found recently at Dr Kwon’s YouTube channel. That kind of drill helped me with feeling the ground—fully activating kinetic chain—leg driven swing, on both sides. The pump (of my understanding) was well primed from WIG principles and task descriptions. Has given me better club-head speed and seems to help swing path, to make more neutral. And with driver and tilt, to finally click that tilt extends all the way thru tailbone and not just feel at shoulders. Playing some winter golf here near Vancouver.
Hey Brian! The hand you throw and write with and the leg you kick with.
and that does mot have any bearing on your grip; you simply deliver a nice throw with momentum in the direction you want to start the ball and see how it flies; if you like what you see, your grip is good; if not, adjust the face until you see the flight you are looking for or get really good at the “release” (see all the release videos) or a bit of both. There is nothing else (that’s the good news…😝)
This is close to Mu! The key is to see which side engages the kinetic chain the best; if you played tennis, Mu plays right handed but has a better backhand, so he plays golf left handed and it is working out pretty good so far! 😝
Shawn I joined awhile ago after watching many of your videos, the question I have is you state in one of the free published videos if you don’t require distance or better said have a problem with distance of the tee you can gain more accuracy by setting up with the club in the middle of your stance ball just in front and swing along the ground allowing the ground to serve as and aide. However in that same video you correct or say differently to place the center of the driver or middle of the driver in the middle of your stance. So I’m unclear if u actually mean the actual center of the driver head or just. The driver centered in the middle of your stance. Can u elaborate here.
Hi Clarence! This was for the driver for accuracy video and we simply want to set up the same way as a fairway wood with the CENTRE OF THE CLUB HEAD in the centre of the stance which would of course place the ball between the centre and the lead heel. You want to play the “straight fade” and aim a tad left centre of the fairway and let it drift back towards the centre.
Wow, thanks for such a quick reply, Shawn just one more question regarding setup on 3-5 fairway woods. Are they also setup with my nose or sternal notch directly in the middle of the club head? If I understand your reply below correctly , as I will now do so for the driver. Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this, don’t mean to be anal about this but I want to be sure I’m not misunderstanding any guidance you’re providing.
See “hammer drill” video to understand how to be behind the ball regardless of the clubs; it’s a great visual with the fairway woods. Then find a nice doorframe and place a ball against it and set up with a 3 or 5 wood like you were going to drive it through the door frame. Very powerful set up.
Shawn, You should have some videos with real students. I have been watching Dr. Kwon Golf on youtube and I learn a lot watching him work with real students. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwCWfCapZNK_ulayYNTBJxQ/featured
Hey Neal! Yes, we have plans to do more series with students in the future when travel resumes; our clients here in Quebec City are 95% French Speaking and the last 2 years have been a challenge here in Canada. We do have over 5 series with students in premium already, have you seen them?
Shawn
Shawn, I am a new member of your premium channel and have been following your instruction videos including the ones that use” tasks” like swinging an axe into a tree stump with emphasis on establishing lag in the swing with the hands leading the axe/club into impact. My question is should the swing in the sand bunker include this lag which would seem to expose the front edge of the wedge instead of being able to use the bounce along the surface sand?
Hey Dan! When performing the task of spraying sand onto the green, the kinetic chain is the very same one for all shots and the hands lead the club. And yes, the leading edge gets raised exposing the bounce in the process and what you are not quite getting is that they are both one in the same and have the same purpose. When you open the face, the angle of the sole of the club increases to stay and ride the sand’s surface and reduces the amount of sand that goes up the face of the club preventing a submarine dive chuck into the sand.
Hi Shawn – I find when I look at the grass between the ball and the club, I tend the release there, no matter how hard I try to keep my focus on the target. If I look at my intermediate point (about 1 foot in front of the ball), my release feels much better and I feel like I get through my shot. Is this acceptable, or should my eyes be looking closer to the ball? Loving all of your content!
The other option is the “throwing series” with the “goldie locks series” where you PREDICT that the stem will be cut if you throw the club into the direction you want to start the ball; understand the ball can only slow you down slightly but it can only stop you mentally.
Would the task of throwing the club down range toward a lower target (vs a higher target for a level lie shot) be a beneficial way of achieving a solid shot down the slope?
Very good Dan! Downhill shots feel like you are throwing down the hill and uphill shots feel like you are throwing up the hill. The goal is to feel that the throw allows the sole of the club to follow the slope past the ball for a few inches.
When the ball is above my feet, do I also need to pick an intermediate target spot and get the swing to flow over or a little to the right of that intermediate spot in addition to throwing the club out toward a down range target that is right of my intended shot direction?
Hey Dan! Remember, THERE IS NO COMPENSATION FOR DIRECTION WHEN YOU ARE DELIVERING INTO THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO START THE BALL WHILE IN SOLID BALANCE!!
So if you are doing a draw, aim where you want the ball to end, play the ball a hair back of centre and release into the direction you want to start the ball. Use the intermediate point to help you line up and deliver in that direction. Intermediate point do not have to be directly in line BTW! If the intermediate point is a bit too far right, aim left of it and release over it.
Shawn, I am struggling to accurately aim the putter so that I can start the ball on my intended line that I created when I visualize the ball rolling into the hole at the correct speed .I am aware with the help of your videos ,of the distortion that our binocular vision creates when addressing the ball from the side. I have tried using binocular vision to line up the logo or line on the ball from behind so that it is pointing toward my intended line but I find that unless the ball has 3 parallel lines on it (like Callaway) the direction that the ball is pointing seems distorted when viewed from address position if the logo is not sitting perfectly on top of the ball. I have had some aiming success by initially aiming the putter at an “Absolute Aiming point” that is .intentionally far left or right of my intended target line and then adusting my putter aim gradually from that initial Absolute Aiming point until I perceive that I am aimed properly. I also have had some aiming success by identifying a spot on the green as an intermediate target on my intended target line1 to 3 feet ahead of my ball however some greens don’t have any identifiable spots to use as an intermediate target.Can you suggest any aiming techniques other than the ones I noted that will help me to properly aim my putter so that using the momentum controlled putter stroke that I use is accurately aimed at my intended target starting line? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Think about the aim as aiming the momentum of the stroke and use the blur of the putter above the ball to perform a few perpetual motion strokes. If the logo of the ball can be lined up well from behind, match the blur of the putter with the logo when you get beside the ball and see that feet match this line. IT WILL NOT FEEL LIKE YOU ARE LINED UP PROPERLY BECAUSE SIDE VISION IS INVOLVED. But if you see the blur and it matches the line on the ball, roll a few on that line WITH NO INTERFERENCE and just the weight of the arms and putter in balance under your shoulders and see if the ball rolls on that line.
Hello, watch all the process vids and many others. I understand how to set up for draw and fade. And today went to hit balls. And I implemented the stuff. I never draw or hook , I would fade or slice. But today, strong draw, or hooking. I made adjustments, club face, squirt more to right and no luck. Kept hooking or strong draw.
I may be doing the smother hook you spoke of ….. But I don’t know what that really is. I concentrated on sternum notch and it did less but nothing to be excited about. I guess I need to video myself.
But do you have other vids and other drills to watch to remedy this
Hey Michael! Good stuff! You just took a step in the right direction! Now let’s sharpen this with the following videos in the order below:
-how to match backswing with ball direction
-blur of club
-arc blur unstoppable momentum series
-draw fine tuning
-fade fine tuning (yes, to balance the swing, you need to practice both)
let me know how you develop!!
Appreciate it! I have watched them in the past, but it was great to watch them again.
But, I was able to go to the range today and implement the stuff. I have to say….. its pretty cool to purposely do a draw or a fade. Now I just need to fine tune it, to be able to put the ball close to where I want it. Just more practice.
But, the big thing I learned today, the more relaxed (let the arm club unit work) I was the better the shot. Plus, the battering ram method is a great thing for me to visualize.
Also – at the end of the session I did hit about 20 balls with my driver and that was NOT fun. I was still hooking hard, which I never did. I think I am not staying centered…. (again).
Also – knees are hurting….am I swaying? ….or some say – hip bump…. I don’t feel it….but does’t mean I am not doing it right?
Watch the strain level with the driver! See the “spinner series” we did recently and you will appreciate the loss of side spin that will occur with this task!
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