Interesting observation as I was working on my grip a little today. I had lost the feeling of being aware of my wrist hinge in the back swing over the course of this season and I think my grip may have been the short circuit and the reason for my higher strain level as well. As I was practicing in my basement today, I tried the 10 finger grip. I felt that this grip really allowed me to secure the club more than the overlap and I was able to think of my target while waiting for the feel of the club loading. My ball compression was also better and I really felt like I nutted the majority of my strikes. What could be the reason for this? Is it as simple as saying 10 fingers suits my anatomy more than the other grip types when I am throwing the club to the target? Hopefully I can get out on the course a couple more times before the snow! I will report back if I manage to try this out on the course.. getting cold out there! 🙁
Hi Dario! Just saw this comment, sorry I missed it!
Yes, it all hinges (pardon the pun) on your personal anatomy! Great on you for feeling this; you are probably getting better leverage in your hands; and this could be permanent or simply help the brain tie up some loose ends with the feel of things as to the efficiency;
You may stay with it or come back to overlap; does not matter! Enjoy the evolution!
Shawn
Hi Shawn – braced tilt is the key to your setup philosophy – but there is only one premium video on it? 🙂 I know there are a ton of videos on YouTube but i get lost in them. Beyond this video, which ones (and preferred order?) from YouTube should i review on braced tilt? This is my focus of winter study! Thanks! David
Best ones are the latest called:
“turn tilt swing shawn clement”
“tilted spiral part 4 shawn clement”
My series with Jukka is very good with this as well, and you will see some more coming up in Eagle;
The key is to find the task that allows you to find the tilt and understand why it fits the task; then do some goldie locks on the tilt and see what does not fit the task.
Then it is about the mile markers; are you staying with the task back and through or no?
Hi Shawn – you are probably going to laugh at this but i’m trying to confirm my feel of the ‘brace’ part and not so much the tilt. I find when i worry more about the target, the tilt takes care of itself. However, after reading Brandel Chamblee’s book “The Anatomy of Greatness” last winter (btw, i’m super excited to see that he and you align on almost all details because i loved that book and your videos – its rare to find golf instructors agree!) i realized that i was bracing on the wrong side. I was tending to kick my right knee in (for right hand golfer) vs. getting the left knee in on the turn. Once i switched sides on the knee kick in, i started seeing amazing results. The part that flew over my head all summer was the brace on the left side too. To me, it feels like you get the left knee kicked in, but the weight needs to be “locked in” on the left heel at address for stability. I tended to spin out a lot on the downswing which seems to indicate on enough weight was on the left side through impact…but was trying corroborate my theory! Thanks Shawn!
I think I’m in the same place as you DC. I’m going to try focusing on ‘getting the ground’ just before I start the downswing, but keeping that left knee ‘inside’ my body, rather than letting it ‘flare’ out. I think this what I’m seeing Shawn do – but it’s deceptive because it looks like the body is moving towards the target, but this happens well after contact, pulled by the momentum of the club.
Completing backswing video you talk how you can lift your left heel up. However, in fairway bunker shot you stay flat footed hole swing. So in normal swing you first plant your left foot, then flat footed swing and finally club momentun pull your right foot up to get full finish. Is this the difference beetween flat footed or “normal” swing?
Hi Jukka, yes; in the fairway bunker, because the ground is not as firm and secure as the fairway, it is more instinctive to stay flat footed throighout the motion; but we want to have a full range of motion for sure!
I am having a lot of trouble with your videos as they stop after about 2-3 minutes in fact this one stopped after 30 seconds so i have cancelled my subscription
I will send a screenshot to support
Also sent a video of my swing and got no analysis back which is what I thought i paid for
Sorry to hear that man, it sometimes happens when the internet is slow in your neck of the woods; ours is on the frits right now and we are supposed to have 50 MB per second!
Please forward your swing analysis again; these last few weeks have been crazy and we are just getting things to a normal state;
Shawn
Hi and thank you for asking. Yes i have stayed pretty much same technic. When season started i had repeatability problems. Now i try to feel more centered and anchored swing. When i did frisbee drill my body was releasing more and i change that to hammer drill to feel more centered and litel more hand release.. Now my swing feel pretty good and i have played rounds like 82 and record round was 78. So im getting better 🙂
Hi Shawn
As a new Eagle member you have cured the problems I was having with half shots, pitches and even chips going sideways. Love the fine tuning video which I practiced yesterday. One problem I was having was bottoming out before the ball. Having been a Rotary Swing member I remember the advice on what they called posting up on the lead (left) leg. This involves weight shift to the left then pushing hard against the ground. This seems to bottom the arc out and help with shifting the left hip. I have watched a lot of the videos on your site, have I missed out on this move or should I be doing something else ?
Thanks
John
PS
Love the humour such as Skully the skeleton.
Hi John! Good stuff, glad you are enjoying the content!
The reason why you don’t hear me harping on HOW TO SHIFT OR POST ON LEFT is because our system (human body-central nervous system) has this built in for free! We have incredible self preserving wires built right in.
See my “ club speed “ video which is a great session on throwing the club and perform the “walking and cutting grass drill” you will see a nice series on “off season training” and after the grip and posture videos around the 4th to 9th one, you will have some walking drills there that will ensure that you stay nicely centered through out the motion;
When you OVERDO weight shift, you send yourself out in front of the ball and dislodge your swing’s centre. This will cause a reaction to throw the club quickly atnthe ball so you don’t miss it!
See my “turn tilt swing shawn clement” video on the regular channel; we have a perfected one on premium;
We have some nice “mile markers for centering” coming in the new consistency series coming very soon!
Shawn
I’m following your teaching since i have begun to play golf, 10 months ago, and i can say that you have saved me so much time and effort. I’m now a 15.8 handicaper and every time i hit a wall, i find one video that help me keeping making progress. I have also taken a couple of lessons with Edouard Montaz, since i’m from France, and it was great. I really enjoy the new website and the audio files in the Eagle exclusive part are pure gold.
I have one issue that keep bothering me every time i think i have solved it :
I truly recognize myself in the last video you recently posted on your Youtube main channel “Release your club”. I have the same issue as the one your student is struggling with. The club head keep coming sligthly open, causing some fade/slice and losing me some distance. My main feel when i swing is the tomahawk/fishing rod underneath throw. But i’m unable to find the similitude between that feel and the football drill : i would definitively throw the ball like you do but i think i would never throw it like i throw a tomahawk. Where am i wrong ?
Another little thing for the website, don’t you think it could be a good idea if premium or eagle members could ask you some simple questions that you would select and which you could answer to in a some regular videos ?
Hi Thomas! English is very good!
The football drill is not for the release; it is for swing plane, elbow room, and kinetic chain!
The sword is for both football AND release;
See “all about the release shawn clement” and “dominant lead hand shawn clement” and “release the club fully shawn clement” on the regular channel;
The sessions for the “consistency series” start next week and the first one is perfect for you for this situation!!
Shawn
Great lesson, I could tell his backswing was longer when he hit the ball than it was during his smooth practice swing. I tend to do the same thing and never thought about grip pressure keeping me from over-doing my backswing
Grip Pressure was too tight enough and the club move tend to get loose at the top of the backswing. I have worked on the left hand only swing feeling the natural hinge at the top and finish
Dragging the club back as you mentioned in the “Initial move” was a great tip. Really set the swing in the right motion, and made it very fluid; effortless.
I’ve been hitting the driver well but the height is just far to high if I want to play a fade. I’m hitting everything solid slightly on the way up to an even level of attack, but the thing is going into the stratosphere. I want to hit it lower without hitting down on it sharply.
I’ve got 8.5 degrees of loft and an xstiff 70g shaft. I can’t get the loft any lower. Would I just need a heavier shaft with lower loft to bring the flight down?
How do you hit your fairway woods? Do like my latest set up for accurate drives; and tee the ball about a half inch high, and then focus on the sole of the club staying along the ground into the backswing and then well past the ball through impact; eyes on the grass between club and ball because you will no longer see the tee anymore; just like hitting a driver off the deck on a perfect lie!
Shawn
Shawn seems like your wrist at the top is a bit cupped, isnt it better to have a flat wrist at the top of most swings especially with the longer clubs?
Hi Raymond! Sorry I did not see this!
My wrist is not cupped (I call that collapsed) and those who flatten or bow like Dustin and Brooks have a weaker grip that needs face closure somehow; and they did this as young juniors before they got formal instruction. If you hit a baseball with a bat with a bowed wrist, you would break your wrist. So what we do here at wisdom in golf is much more anatomically sound.
Hey Shawn – i’m looking for a video where you talk about the distance your hands are from your thighs increases as the clubs are longer (so closer for wedges, furthest away at address for driver). I *know* i’ve seen it – but i can’t seem to find it here or on YouTube. Any suggestions? Would be awesome for keyword search to be able to find key video concepts.
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