Hey Shawn,
I’ve noticed how you mention the right elbow dropping down in front of your body and my question is with me being a bigger guy with a big midsection I’m not able to get my right elbow down in front of me, should I let my elbow stay tight to my right side or what would you suggest in this situation?
Priority #1, get through the ball and get that speed to peak effortlessly beyond the ball; let me know how you do with that; best drill there is “throw the club” video and see “club speed” video as a great complement!
Exellent👍 I noticed when i was trying to do “double pendulum short stop throw” my grip was much lighter. When i was doing “revolving door slinging, collect release throw” my grip was much more tighter. So maybe the task can also effect your plane? I mean the task gives you automaticly right grip pressure and plane? Does this make any sense?
I have always loved the pause at the top of my backswing as a checkpoint to ensure that I am still with my initial intermediate point come time for the down swing.
Been having some difficulty with my 30-60 yard pitch shots…
How would this drill be applied to pitching of the golf ball because on occasion there is little to a very small amount of wrist hinge needed for these shots.
Good stuff! Have a look at the kinetic chain series for this; we have one specific to pitching!
Plus more to come in the following weeks; see also Flow state series” on pitching
Is the trail leg getting straight on the backswing and the led leg straightens at posting up?
When you take the club back on the backswing , are the arms moving like a door opening or like a dog door . Hope that makes sense!. Cause I feel like I can do both!
The body is like the door and the arms are like the doggie door; nice blend of both! You know you are doing things right when you are using the arm club unit to cut grass in both directions without stopping; see the beginner series for that as well as the “grass whip training series”
Sorry for all the questions, I’m trying to break this 5 handicap for the last 2 years. So verifying these issues is very helpful. I just get tired of shooting 78 one day and then 70 the next.
Understand , seen those . But is the initial move like the door opening , other words moving to the right for a right handed and then the arms elevate in front of chest. My shoulders are moving the club to the right of me and elevating.
Sometimes I just want to elevate only and come down at impact like a hammer!
That last description of hammering down on the ball is the perfect way to swing IF THE BALL WAS THE TARGET. See “hammer drill” video to hammer the ball TOWARDS THE TARGET!! And that swing will be a thing of the past!
I have fought the club for years trying to control it, throwing from the top with my hands & shoulders. I was hitting into the nets after my chiro appointment this morning and I was using what another instructor calls the heave to get the club to the top of the back swing. I guess that would be your levitation. After the initial heave the club felt like it coasted to the top, floated there for a second, then started falling. As my arms and the club fell back down I turned my body accelerating the arm club unit through the ball. I have never been able to feel this. My wedge & 9 iron were solid, the 6 iron was a little harder to hit consistently and the 5 wood and driver were bad until as you pointed out in this video the swing on a flatter plane.
I can’t wait till spring to play!
Hi Shawn, I struggle to release the driver, and this is dramatically different from my irons (I think compared to all of my irons & wedges). In to Out path is challenging as well because ball is further up, but I’m really confused about why it is so much more difficult to release (shut the face). Can you please explain; does it have to do with the flatter plane?
Another great video. Love the slow mo showing the “double pendulum” and release foreword. It amazes me, watching Savy and your swings, how for most golfers the brain sabotages this process with a ball strike mentality. It feels so great when that sequence is created and so incredibly frustrating when the chain is broken. One of my first lessons with you was the elephant walk later becoming the grass whip- cut. This is now a pre shot routine for me to focus on the feel of the correct sequence. My 5 year old granddaughter knows all about cutting dandelions . OMG….en francais…OMD…..n’est ce pas? Thanks.J.
Haha oui!
Good pre-shot routine; I was with a student this week who experienced this for the first time with the sword drill and when she did a full sword drill sessions of 2 right hand-2 left hand-2 both hands on the grip but swing horizontally like a baseball swing-then deliver that feel through to the intermediate point with a dandelion cut prediction, WHAM! 20 more yards. So much fun!!
That would be correct!! Although having a nice waltz in your mind while walking around the golf course or The song Tennessee Whiskey or the Blue Danube works quite nicely too! 😀👍
I remember seeing Kevin win in San Antonio; he was ripping it and going at every flag and it was great to see; followed him in the last nine holes. He was playing with John Huh who was limping in with a 77 in the final round. John was defaulting to the ball and blocking everything short and right and Kevin was absolutely dialled into the target and releasing into his pictures. You could see the huge difference between the 2 and I tried to help John at the range Afterwards and he was just seeing red and trying to blow off steam; he was so upset. Talk about so close yet so far to helping a guy out on tour!!
Let me know when he is ready and I will get Kevin back to the winner’s circle.
Shawn
Shawn, I’m curious if allowing the student to alternate actually throwing a club just before hitting the ball on the course would reinforce that great free sensation one feels. I feel like trying to remember that sensation while on the course is a challenge at first and leaves me with a fuzzy (at best) image of my task.
Sword slashes with lead arm-then trail arm-then both arms for a couple reps each will bring it back nicely for you before each shot! See how many practice swings the pros make, it’s a lot! As ling as you are done within 25 to 40 seconds…
I just did this drill today for the first time. Wow, what an eye opener! First time I did it it flew up into the tree to the left and behind me! Then it was going high left for a while and then finally straight out in front but a bit low.
I have been having some many issues playing. I just won my Club Championship for the 3rd time out of the last 4 years but the 2nd day was awful. Shot 45 on the front and was just about to cry. My ball was all over the place. Fortunately I got it together on the back and shot 36 and luckily my closest competitor had a bad day.
I have to feel like my right hip stays high and I am throwing sideways at the target to hit it well. I am a backhander and the frisbee analogy seems to work. I also have trouble starting my swing because my arms out race my body. Working on this but have almost quit this game a few times in the last year!
Imagine how silly it sounds when a tour player or a multiple club champion wants to quit the game because it’s too hard…sounds very silly for the rest of the golfers out there no? I KNOW WHY AND I HAVE DEEP SCIENCE BEHIND MY FINDINGS TOGETHER WITH A STADIUM FULL OF GOLFERS AS MY STUDENTS AS FEEDBACK AND VALIDATION.
Take tennis: when receiving a tennis ball from a simple second serve, and you know exactly where in the court you want to return it to, your brain can organize the positioning of the body precisely to execute. HOWEVER, if you are unsure where to put it and hesitate, YOU WILL FALTER. IF YOU GET DISTRACTED BY AN OUTSIDE AGENCY SUCH AS A STREAKER RUNNING ACROSS THE COURT OR PETE SAMPRAS SHOWING UP TO WATCH YOU, YOU WILL FALTER. If you stay on task, stay with the shot until you fully deliver the action through the ball and into the area you want to send it, you will shine.
We have several players on the Euro tour who keep calling Edouard and they keep getting completely different answers from the coaches who are using scare tactics to hold them in place; yet they still can’t make their way back to where they were because they keep getting distracted by BODY PART POSITION MADNESS. THE LAST QUESTION EDOUARD ASKED IS: “where do you think that pull comes from?” And “do you know how to stay with your shot?” To which they answer: I DON’T KNOW! This is from a tour player people!!! This from a player who won AbuDhabi in 2015 against Rory!
So, why would the arms outrace the body on the backswing? Because you are in control and trying to find a place to place the arms; instead of “getting ready to use the weight of the arm-club unit to deliver the action to the direction you want to start the ball, to which now the body has to “heave the arm-club unit into the backswing” to get things going. Want to get the arms to outrace the body in the downswing? EASY!! Just go after the ball hard!!
And please don’t try to keep that hip higher; this was just a flavour your conscious mind caught a glimpse of when you hit a nice shot; so just enjoy the flavour and then get back to task in the next shot and forget the body parts. We will continue this conversation until ALL OF YOU ARE FREE and have full PREDICTION POWERS AS TO WHAT YOU WANT YOUR SHOTS TO DO. This is when you have opportunities to slip into a nice deep zone and hit your personal bests!
Thank you so much for your reply!!
The right hip higher feeling I feel keeps my right foot on the ground so I don’t spin out of the shot.
Today I practiced allowing my legs to heave my arm club unit into the backswing and tried to feel the weight instead of trying to control the motion. For me, I have to allow the swing to happen instead of trying to make it happen. I watched the new “Levitate” video too and am trying to incorporate that feeling. I’m a 6.5 handicap and sometimes when I play in tournaments I look like I’ve never played. I have to learn to give control to gravity. I’ll keep watching your videos. I’m determined to stop the insanity!
Yes, this is me lately! Bombing drives and have no clue where my irons are going! Throwing clubs today helped.
Still struggling with not trying to hit the ball. Old habits die hard and rear their ugly head in tournaments. Overthinking the concepts might my issue!
Shawn and Savy that was super. I know this will help alot of students to really understand the levitation that can happen naturally instead od pulling the arms up the ribcage or just lifting the arms. Great explanation.
Depends on the size of the greens Jim! The key is to land in the first third and roll the other 2 thirds. THEN choose the club that will do the job based on that. Can run from a Lob wedge to a 7 iron depending on the size and speed of the greens.
At the halfway point in the downswing is the right hand palm facing slightly down so the clubface looks about what it was at this stage in the backswing?
That is the last place you want to be mentally as we are beyond terrible with body part positioning; your anatomy is so well put together to take care of this aspect of the swing!! See “throwing the club” and then see “lead hand release” “trail hand release” and “release fine tuning”; finally, see “predict contact” and “the goldie locks series” to learn how to put the ball in the way of you throwing to the target.
If you are not going to the target, you are defaulting to the ball and therefore have no place to put the ball; the ball can and is a PRECISE INTERSECTION only when the target is front and center in the mind and you are delivering a specific task to a specific direction where you want to start the ball.
Shawn, I read somewhere that Sav prefers to think of a frisbee toss(leading hand) to encourage a realease at the target. I haven’t seen any videos by you discussing the frisbee analogy in any detail and how it is similar and different than the golf swing. Thank you
Look at a nice little youtube series I did for golf wrx and their editor who had to switch from right to left because of an accident. It is called “the backhand series shawn clement golf wrx” and then see “dominant lead hand shawn clement” as well.
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