Because the ball is on a tee and already in the air and we want to catch it on the way up; see “driver” and “driver part 2” as well as “great Driver Nugget” to round things out! 😀👍
Hi Shawn,
U are definitely filling in my quest to understand the swing. 👍 and thank you
I tried this drill and here are my findings for u to comment on:
1) I call this drill the windup. The right elbow stays in front and the turn / heave coordinates the body parts all as one unit: the legs/ right hip catapults back, the shoulders turn in unison with the legs/ hips, the weight shift is a centred pelvic turn around as the arm / club unit rotates back. All comes as a freebie from this drill!
2) what I found though is the arm lfolding/cocking has already been completed with the presetting of the arms club. What I felt that I lost was: the arm levitation part with right elbow being more glued to the body., and the arm /club unit momentum tracking back lost the feeling as it was more of a windup of tension rather than a
Am i missing something as I felt the throwing part of the arm/club unit was lost and dominated by the unwinding of the body parts from tension buildup from this drill. That is
I guess the throwing of the club with my right elbow leading looses it’s momentum motion feeling:
Comments appreciated
Dave
The “gluing the right elbow to the chest is a big fat red flag Dave; you did not get that one from me! See “connection shawn clement” videos on youtube for that one. As for the rest, see “using the weight in your swing-axe drill with savy” then “backswing levitation”, then “kinetic chain engagement series” and “the throwing series”
Thank you. Will follow your advice
I did not mean glueing but more the right elbow in front pec … re à la Hogan … if that makes sense
Though does this drill produce more of a tension based windup?
Maybe it is my hogan right elbow being too dominant
Dave
That tension based windup has been the single most misinformed theory that has put too many golfers under the knife and snuffed out too many promising careers. Should have never existed in the first place had the teachers of the day done their homework on anatomy. When the #1 teacher in the US is telling you to resist with the hips in the backswing and points to the top of his pelvis and cannot even tell the difference, you know there is a problem. See “lower body in the backswing shawn clement” on youtube and let me know.
Hi Shawn
Been on vacation to Dallas and just got back a week ago. No golf until this week.
Here are my findings:
Your lower body in the backswing highlighted my dominated right elbow. It was adding more tension to the turn which u commented is a big red flag. In reflection it brought me Knudsen thought on the headless machine. A machine like iron Byron does not add tension to the torque of the body or shaft. As u stated, Your new favorite drill presets everything and allows one to just wind up. What I found though is the drill has plusses and minuses in a positive sense. I found for myself that the preset of club shaft, wrists etc drops the feeling of clubhead momentum in the backswing.
The drill stops any fanning of the right forearm relative to the backswing.
It syncs the lower and upper body turn. Right elbow makes it’s nice circle relative to the lower body/upper body turn.
I find the first eight inches of the turn is a good feeling indicator for me. When I start the lower leg rotation, I have to gently feel the right shoulder turning / participating with the lower leg / hips, and the arm club units being pulled by this body action. Hogan’s right elbow position, for me brings home the squaring of it/ clubface to the target line relative to my body. I am experimenting with the right elbow relative to shoulder / pelvis / feet alignment. You are giving me the investigatory directions in the quest to refine the swing. A fun quest to infinity😊
Maybe too much thought on my part but your teachings are giving me better indicators/sensors/thought nuggets to work on.
Again thank you for your insights.
I hope my ramblings are not too far off on your wisdoms. My perceptions from your teachings is giving me a deeper awareness to simplify my swing.
Dave
Hi Shawn, can you discuss how the release happens? I’m struggling to marry the two concepts of the lasso task in the Snap Release Polish video and this new drill with the axe/hammer behind the tree/door frame. To me, the axe drill is staying behind the tree and getting out of the way so it seems less of an active task where the lasso seems more active which actually causes me to push or release too early.
Hi Shawn – I think the side-vision/tilt is where I get off track. With the tilt, I find it hard to maintain that braced feel you talk about in other videos. When I try this, I love the axe feel and it helps me feel the weight of the AC unity, however, I feel like I’m throwing off my back foot and the club will release too much up if I were to throw it. The solution my body tries to implement is to stand up straighter so I can throw it out toward my target line but that conflicts with this side vision/tilt idea….what am I missing? Tom
Love this video. Being a newer golfer it’s good to watch all three off you, it’s a natural progression from newbie to a seasoned professional. I have so much trouble with alignment and right arm dominance I am hoping this might help me out. BTW a few podcasts ago you all where discussing the psychology of sports and there is a great new book titled, Love Yourself Like your Life Depends on it. A perfect book for us golfers that loath ourselves. LOL
That is a nice title! 😀👍
have you seen the beginner series? Also, I have a great little series with my Yoga Teacher in Toronto; here it is:SWING BUILDER SERIES WITH CHANTAL
Hi Shawn, In fading my Driver and hybrids does the club face have more influence on the starting direction? My Fades are becoming too much slice and if I aim more left with my feet it just slices more. Thanks.
Perfect example of a club face that is too open to begin with; some of my students need to CLOSE the face MORE than the draw with the fade. It is really blowing a lot of myths wide open!!
I have noticed on some of my poor iron strikes the divot is too far inside the ball despite my posture feeling balanced at set up. A weak toe strike is the result. Could this mean I am placing too much weight on my lead leg during the downswing?
The videos you want to watch to get a proper reference are “blur of club” and then all the videos with “arc-blur” and “unstoppable momentum” as well as the “football drill” series.
Are the hands turning over at the ball or after the ball…I’ve seen so many different answers to this question. I’ve seen the DST club guy show how the left wrist stays flat to target well after the ball?
Hey Ken! This is where understanding anatomy and human movement patterns are critical! See “lead hand release”, “trail hand release”, “release fine tuning” and “snap release polish”, then see “target confirmation series”.
and to answer the question, PAST THE BALL, because we are COLLECTING THE BALL from where it lies, and then releasing the ball into the direction we want it to go.
Hey Shawn! I recently discovered your channel after looking for an online golf training option. I love the volleyball idea, and will be making that purchase soon! I can’t wait to continue exploring this section, and continue working on the fundamentals!
My right hand started to offer close the club face with him to follow. Tried making the right hand do nothing. It did not work. Changed the task to skipping a rock and problem solved. It is like the football but feels more accurate with regards to back contact and following carrot peel.
That sent me looking on YouTube. I did not find any that far back but did find “ridiculously easy golf” part 1and 2 from 11 years ago which was on point. You also had a great one on how hard to hit which married the skipping of the stone and heavy momentum perfectly.
It appears that your club is very “open” at the top of your swing. Is that true?
if so, you must have a lot of wrist/hand action at impact to square the clubface?
Hey Mark! Yes, my release pattern is 45 years old and one of the most efficient you will find; similar to Matt Wolff-except my grip as you can see is much stronger than his. I just have very limber wrists and it is just the way they hinge.
Hi Shawn ,
Hope you’re well. Looking forward to your next visit to Palm Springs.
I incorporated this drill into my new “waggle” during play. I simply setup and then hinge back my wrists to confirm my setup and take a waggle with my “axe”. I used it during my last round and I’ve never drove the ball better. I’ve seen a few tour players doing something similar. Now I think I understand what and why they are doing. Thinking of Justin Thomas and Ricky Fowler.
Gday Shawn. Just picked up a great nugget with my chipping. Making sure my club face is dynamically square at impact has stopped the ball bouncing sideways after it lands. Now they’re actually rolling true. Have you ever noticed this?
Hey Matt! Depends on path; you may have had a path that was a bit inside in the backswing which is common; have you seen our other videos with open faced chips?
Could have been yes.. Contact has always been good, but always had to deal with the ball spinning off line 1st/2nd bounce… bit hard to hole them when they do that!
Closing the face a tad is helping with those ones I want to roll out straight.. and I don’t have any issues with contact when I stay on task… I’m nipping them nicely
It seems like in the actual swing that the trail elbow never gets too much past the trail hip, and the trail arm does not straighten until after impact. Is this an accurate observation?
A straight lead arm alone should be maintaining the correct distance to ball, I assume?
Like this drill as well as the slam the garage door drill noted in comments also liked the note that Sav was coming out of posture. About a month in as a member hit a pure bliss 5I and 8I on the course. That feeling is addictive hope to feel it more often. I was trying to guide some shots and hold on to the release. Do I just need to focus more on the task?
Hey Michael! It is a “get ready to hammer through the doorframe move” or a “get ready to cut through the dandelion stem move” to get the arms in the right place to perform the task; always think task and let the body react to the task.
Excellent thanks Shawn… I’ve joined a few sites but you’re the only that genuinely seems to understand it or at least explain what you’re doing properly
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