Would you agree that the low point of the swing, on both up hill and down hill shots would naturally be towards the high foot? Ie: right hand golfer hitting down hill shot, the low point would be closer to the right foot ( the high foot)?
One would think this is logical but no; same exact ball position as on flat land IN ALL SITUATIONS; the body naturally sets up with the slope as you ask it to perform the task of cutting grass along the slope. See all the 4 sloped lies videos called “uphill shot”, “downhill shot” ball above feet” “ball below feet” videos. Enjoy! This is BY FAR the best way it has ever been presented and the only correct way, bar none! Nobody comes close…
Shawn,
You had a video that was quite effective for me and now I can’t find it. It is the one where the ball is hit, and at the finish of the swing the club is pulled back into a back swing and is swung again in a practice swing. I should have favorited it but failed to do so. Can you help?
Flip
Yes, this is the 2 swing drill; darn it if I cannot remember which video it is in; it is a great video for dynamic balance and kinetic chain engagement.
Shawn,
The drill is similar to the “Walk,Cut, Strike” drill. Could not find it through search. But it is a very good drill. And thanks for your rapid response. Amazing.
Shawn, since you told me to turn my back to the target I am hitting the ball farther which is great. Just need to hone the new swing. Now on another note, I could never understand and was very thankful why guys would hit shanks. But over the last 2 years suddenly and usually on a hook lie the ‘s’ word would show up even with my new Vokey wedges. I have no idea why, maybe I’m swaying?
This tells me that your arms are too deep behind you with the wedges; see “backswing levitation” and “using the weight in your swing-axe drill with Savy” as well as “arm swing vs body turn” videos. Then polish with “perpetual motion drill series” and you should feel way “steeper” with the wedges than with the mid irons and woods.
Moody background 🙂
I watched the draw and fade waggle videos, I am going to give that a go in my pre-shot routine.
On your first drive in this video you mentioned releasing too early and that causing over-draw. Is the walking drill the best for release timing? I was at the golf studio today and I was hitting my 3i out of the middle but my draw shot came out as a push slice. So path was correct but face was open, right? That made me think my timing was slightly off. 3i fades were on the money (…. mostly!).
Hey Vince! 2 things; the backswing needs to match the direction of flight and the last video analysis your backswing was not inside enough and did not match the draw. Then if the ball is still not coming back and this is a pattern, then yes, you need to close that face and don’t be shy!
Never cease to amaze me at how simple you can break it down!! Love the drill – after a dozen or so attempts I am finally going over the second tee!! Love this!!
I’m a lefty and when I try to play a draw it stays out and never comes back. The more I close the face, the worse the shot is. The shots are very low (on the ground) straight with no distance hardly. I have a strong grip if this matters.
Hey Maurice!
I would start with getting the flow of momentum feeding in the right direction first with “how to match backswing to ball direction” video;
then we need to get a proper release in that direction; start with “lead hand release” then “trail hand release”, “release fine tuning” and “snap release polish”
Then we use that flow of momentum to throw the club into the direction you want the ball to start into with the “throwing series” and then see the “kinetic chain facilitation” series to seal the deal.
at 4:49 … the clubface looks open. And I also have felt this when trying to keep my hands in front. Is this managed by simply shutting the face at address slightly?
Yes, exactly! The deal is you release the stem of the dandelion towards the direction you want the ball to start on and see how the ball flies. Keep closing until you get the desired flight and completely disregard what it looks like. So many of my students don’t close the face enough at first and think there is a problem with the swing…
Just what I needed currently. I played S&T for years and had fallen back into keeping my right arm against my side. I also had recently lost a club distance in the irons and noticed I was not letting the left wrist hinge. Both related.
Found the drill I was looking for. “Get to the end of the kinetic chain- off season training (6)”. A great drill. I find it helps to use the paint brush to obtain the snap release. Really a good one.
Glad I found it. Now in my favored list
Flip
That would be too much to manage for most, because you are either collecting a ball from where it lies and releasing it into the direction of flight OR throwing the club towards a target through the intermediate point.
Hey Shawn
Just watched your YouTube driver video in which you put white Lines on the top of the driver head.
What do you use for those white lines and is it legal to leave those white lines on the driver head if you are playing in competition?
Thanks and that was a very informative video because I find myself hitting closer to the toe so I am looking forward to utilizing this methodology to help correct that and make sure I hit more center hit shots
Thanks
Hey Larry! We use white electrical tape which does a great job and there is no problem with paint or sight lines on the driver as it has been done a lot. As long as you do not modify DURING the round.
Hi Shawn, three months ago, I started to learn golf with an instructor from my local driving range. I hit the wall well, but I didn’t feel comfortable doing it. My instructor doesn’t let me move my body at all, only my arms. Now that I see your videos, I’m trying to change my swing to your style because it feels good and natural. I practice these drills, but I fail to hit the ball well when doing this swing in the driving range. What could be the problem?
Hi Emilio; not a concern at all; you just need some solid references to get your bearings. See “blur of club” and “grass whip training” as a great task training. Then see “the goldie locks series” and the “throwing the club” and “throwing series” and predict that contact! 😀👍
Great drill Shawn. During today’s practice, when I was doing this drill, I was getting at least a 1/2 to full club length more distance. It was very surprising to me but a great feeling. However, I couldn’t quite get the ball compression I felt in the drill in my regular swing. When doing the drill I seem to feel more momentum and direction to intermediate target than with my regular swing. I’m still pretty new to your coaching site, so I will continue working on it. Thank you so much for the great content and teaching. I started out watching you on YouTube and using your drills. I saw so much improvement in my ball striking that I joined your premium site. Well worth it!!!
A few questions for you. After drawing the ball for my entire golf career – 50 years, I can now hit it both ways thanks to you and actually prefer the fade these days. I have noticed that my scoring is much better early in the round than later and I think this is caused by me playing totally by feel starting out. I have a task – flight and location for the shot. Today was a perfect example – hit driver right where I wanted to today – over trees with a fade, chip and birdie. Birdied par 3 #2, then as the round wore on, I found myself trying to fix things and wondering what went “wrong” with a shot. Then I start having rabbit ears and things fall off the tracks
The real question is, when you are playing well and then get technical during a round, how do you get it back? We waited on every shot today and I struggle with this and my mind wanders and I can not seem to get it back. I play best when I am just reacting – picking out tasks/targets and hitting shots.
I would love to hear your comments about how to put the train back on the tracks after it derails and is in the woods 🙂
Wanted to mention that I do what you said – I do not hit fades and draws with a technical thought, It is more of a task – hit a draw or fade and then just doing it. When I get technical then you bring in the occasional double cross.
Hey Andy! Yes, this is very common when trying to “protect” your good rounds when you start playing better than your comfort zone. This is definitely between the ears and something many players on tour constantly seek and this is why you hear the cliché of “one shot at a time.
1-choose a shot flight plan you are comfortable with for that particular shot; something that would not have you release towards trouble and invite unnecessary tension in the swing.
2-be comfortable over the shot (you did your predictions based on your task to target)
3-what will this feel like when you let that unstoppable momentum go into that direction?
4-witness
You cannot get to the next step without the previous one being sound.
Do you see something in this process that was missing for you or is this what you are doing?
Well there are a few things here. One issue I have had is moving from 50 years of draw to fade, but I think I am OK with that now – I do as you said – do not aim at trouble playing the shot, I favor a side to take into account a slight fade. I can also draw it if I need to, but the draw is less controllable.
I do have a plan – flight path and target, but there seems to be two stages for me. 1) The start of the round where I have thought about the round heading in and I do not think at all, I just react. 2) Once the crap creeps in and I have to get #1 back. It seems for #2 I am almost trying to force something (which I guess I am). That is the thing where I struggle at times
There is a #3 when mechanical swing thought appear and that is the worst thing for me.
The tell tale sign that I am no longer in situation #1 is I get rabbit ears and hear/see everything. For Sunday’s round what knock me from #1 was hitting a perfect shot that was 1 club too much and I think that stuck in my head and rather than accepting it and moving on, I was second guessing the club selection (which does nothing for that round). I should have made a mental note that I was hitting the ball well that day and moved on.
Sounds like you are narrowing things down actually; your management decisions of what shots to hit are meant to keep the stress away from your execution. See how well you do with that in the next couple rounds!
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