Makes sense because you don’t hold the club with the index or thumb of the trail hand and the pinky or\f the trail hand and index of lead hand are for bringing the hands together. So 5 fingers are holding the club:
Lead hand Pinky-Ring-Middle
Trail hand ring and middle
Good observation!! 😀👍
Yes, the grip pressure slightly increase through impact . When I tried very tight grip pressure my swing got slower , more heel impact, less than 100 mph in swing speed. Keeping at 6 and 1, swing speed can go back up 10 125mph with a better release. Your body has to move away from the direction of where club is going.
Is the reason that you set up with the club face closed at address , because the hands led the club face . I notice if I set up square, it’s slightly open at impact ? So there must be some manipulation during the swing. Or maybe we are static at address and dynamics at impact .
It’s sad all the great teachers are never in my city, but 500 plus miles away.
Hi ShaWn,
I have a question about the golf grip. It is not brought up in your grip videos or in the grip chapter by Brandel Chamble. When taking the grip should the V’s be in line with each other or can they be off-set. Thanks!
We never talk about where the V’s point because it is so different for everyone and we are terrible at positioning body parts; see the video we did in the beginner series and the first one we did in wisdom 1.0 and in the premium chronological list at the bottom of the list; these are the most complete grip videos you will ever see!!
Shawn
That part for me needs some more work and adjustment. I had a session experimenting with the grip pressure and ended up with my left forearm muscles aching. I also have some trouble separating the tension I put in the grip from the one I put in the rest of my body. In short while squeezing hard on the club I have issues swinging smoothly. I will see if dialing back the pressure a little bit helps.
Absolutely; and so often I see the lead hand in an improper position; it has to feel like when you whip the club, the hands react effortlessly and give you the pressure you need to match the situation. If you have an ache or sore forearms at the beginning, it could be fine since you were not used to it; see Munashe’s grip pressure exercise with the rice bucket; they should feel like you worked them out that way. And then it should go away when you are stronger and it should not persist.
After watching and learning from all your videos, it appears that PGA instructors have made golf learning more complicated, way too complex, teaching swing styles, all 50 plus positions they want you to be in and golfers don’t get any better . I been stuck at a 5 handicap way too long. I cannot be I was hitting 185 yard draws yesterday on demand.
That is the bliss and the curse of being so far ahead of the times when it comes to learning and acquiring motor skills. I am so glad you are enjoying your journey with us!
Shawn
In this lesson you say a breakdown may occur in the arm sword unit. When my elbows point to my hips, I find that my right elbow bends early taking my arms and swing inside. My right elbow hugs my upper chest. However, when I take my grip and then point my left elbow to the target and my right elbow behind me, my right elbow bend is delayed until I reach the top of my background. At the top my elbow bends and set my wrists. Is this an appropriate fix? If not what would you suggest? BTW, great videos and great lessons!
Hmm, interesting that it happens that way for you; have a look at our “football drill series” on premium; but if it’s possible for you to send me a short clip of what you describe, I would live to see it! Use [email protected]
Shawn, I went to the range to make a video. I also performed the “football drill” and what a difference. It didn’t matter which approach I used, I felt the elbow leading the way. I guess the what felt like being stuck inside was just by elbow be denied access to the target. It felt so good and I had so much fun, I forgot about making the video. 😊
I see you have your index finger , as a hook on the trail hand grip and separated. Why? Are you trying to grip, hold onto club with the index finger. Are you using any type of pinching with trail index finger and thumb. I would think pressure would allow the club face to shut more at impact!
This index does not hold the club and neither does the thumb; every finger has a very distinct purpose in the grip and we explain in detail throughout all of our grip videos. See the grip video in the beginner series, then in the Wisdom in Golf 1.0 series and then the updated grip video in the chronological list on premium. SUPER IMPORTANT-and that is why we produce so much on the grip! 😀👍
I don’t see why you are separating that index finger on purpose from the 3 fingers that hold the club. Why not keep the puzzle together ? I did not see you intentionally mention you want the index finger separated
You saw the grip videos? We talk about the “trigger finger” and how it hooks onto the club…see my oldie but goodie video on youtube called “knife the grip shawn clement” and you will understand better. This is not like baseball, the index has a very specific purpose. See also John Daly’s Grip for an extreme version of it; what I am showing you is very much a lost art on many players today. However, Byron Nelson, Sam Snead, Ben Hogan, Jack and Tiger all use this index the way I show you.
Lets say that you know what your average distances are for each club, what percent effort do you swing at when you are dialing in. So if I know that my max 7 iron is 175 and you have 175 yard to the pin, would you hit a different club, since 7 iron is max. Would hit a 6 iron at say 80% effort. How do you do it?
Every time I straighten my trail leg on the back swing, the golf coach indicated I was coming out of posture by doing that! Isn’t she wrong on that, it does appear that you do that, but hard to tell with pants on. When I do the whip drill, my trail leg straightens up every time. I’m i doing something wrong by doing that?
No, never said that. Stance width a bit wider than hips, about shoulders; please test it with goldie locks in dynamic motion with your finish position!
Hey Shawn, I’ve been away from your fantastic channel for a couple of months and I’m doing a bit of catching up.
Congratulations for your thoroughly deserved Golf Channel Academy Award and I’m just loving seeing The Shawn and Sav Collaboration – truly inspirational.
Thank you dearly for this video, great food for thought once again. I’ll experiment with my grip pressure tomorrow when I go out for a practice round.
I’d just like to share that a little while ago, my putting really improved when I felt the weight of the ACU as you’ve suggested. To do that I had to loosen my grip pressure, or else I pushed it right in trying to manipulate the putter instead of letting the weight of the putter fall. But then one day my putting went awry for a few holes and my golf mate commented that my grip was too loose. He was right, my putter was too wobbly, I’d gone a bit too loosey goosey, too far mumma bear (I’m probably not allowed to say that anymore haha). So with a slightly firmer grip, but still feeling the weight of my putter, my putts were back on the intended line. Recently, though, I’m missing too many 3 footers due to too much grip pressure because I want to make them drop too much, trust issues I suspect hahaha.
Best wishes, Mike G
Right on Mike! Remember that once you have set up with the putter, and have done an acid test as to the balance and it feels like it wants to track in the direction you want to roll the ball, it is now out of your control, you simply see the ball roll in one more time At the speed you want to roll into the hole with and then let the machine react to what you saw. Keep going!
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