Shawn, this seemingly simple task of finding an aim point just beyond my ball as I prepare to execute a shot to a distant target is, to me, the most essential component of my pre shot routine. You’ve touched on the aspect so many times in your teachings that the most important club in your arsenal is your brain. I have found it very calming to know that the intermediate point I select when looking from behind is precisely where I want the club path making contact with the ball. The pre shot routine/intermediate point has been the biggest contributor to lowering my scores, from driving to putting.
Hi Shawn, have a couple of questions, first, when the hands fall past the door frame and you want the club face to squeeze the ball is that happening because of gravity or are you actively extending your arm to squeeze the ball? Second, at around 17:27 you are doing some practice swings and you don’t feel it’s truly through the doir frame until the last one. How are we supposed to know what through really feels like? You are a pro and the WIG grandmaster so you know exactly what it’s supposed to feel like but for us amateurs i don’t know what is truly through the doir frame and what is truly releasing out there to the target.
Good questions! Answer #1 is gravity absolutely; no pushing needed, required or wanted!
#2; YOU WILL FEEL THE DIFFERENCE when the level of friction is 0/10 vs 4/10 at 17:27; one feels sticky with a bit of shove and the other feels breezy through with no obstacles and more speed
Hi Shawn, I keep struggling with the low point of my swing. I have a tendency to hit it fat. You are suggesting swinging back and forth in order to get a feel for the low point. When I swing my arms-club unit, hanging from my sternum, back and forth, how can the grass divot I am cutting out once extend from the middle of my stance to the left, then again to the right. In other words: should the sternum be moving?
Great question! Have a look at the “kinetic chain facilitation and engagement series #6” which is my favourite, when I walk and send divots into the bushes and you see the grass being taken from the same place in the centre of the stance as I take each step; now notice what my centre-sternal notch is doing (staying very steady) and see where I brush grass on the way back going back into the next backswing. IT IS BECAUSE OF THE LAG in both directions caused by the kinetic chain in both directions where the body is turning out of the way in both directions that you have this phenomena. There is a great view from our drone that you will love in that video that shows it well!
Hi Shawn, for a fade should the trail leg be ahead of the lead leg, as the swing should be left of the intermediate point. Or should the trail leg be behind regardless of the draw or fade.
Regards
What we do is align the flow of momentum to the left of the target and keep it there during the swing; the ball position and club face relationship allow for the ball to start in that direction and curve back to the target. This can be done with or without the diagonal stance which would make the alignment of the feet look square for a fade and slightly closed for a draw.
Hey Shawn!
Want to say thanks again for all the wisdom. I previously commented about the tilt and my lower back. I’ve been working on things and I am improving. I’ve noticed things work out better when I have the ball more forward in my stance. It feels more natural and I seem to have better feels. Is there any issue with this?
Hi Austin! For some reason I missed this comment! Ball position is open to interpretation; what makes it more precise is to match it with the direction you want to start the ball; too forward it starts to pull and too back it feels like you have to reach back and can’t release through with momentum. See the ball position video in the “goldilocks series”
Hey Shawn, been working on pitch shot with my simulator and every single shot seems have a bit of hook spin on them. The direction is pretty good and I’ve tried making sure the back-swing matches the direction. I’m not sure if i’m just being overactive with my hands or what the cause could be. Any help would be appreciated!
Just sounds to me like your face is too closed; when chipping and pitching with higher lofted clubs, there is not enough velocity in the shot for the ball to move and so you want the club face to be square to slightly open on your wedges.
Hi Shawn, I love the “ball on a string” analogy, when I imagine my clubhead being the tennis ball and working in a vertical circle it make wonders! It helps me to get a more upright backswing and to use gravity more
Do you have other videos about this topic/analogy ?
Thanks a lot Benjamin
Hi Shawn, I recently re-joined your premium channel. I left because I would over-watch your videos and I felt I would confuse myself with different tasks whilst playing and one of the issues I had was I would loose the ball left. I got a lesson and was able to hit fades on command. The knowledge that I acquired from watching your videos enabled me to do that so quickly. Thank you for explaining things so clear.
Interestingly, I have been doing a similar drill in my pre-shot routine for a while which I thought worked to great effect, however doing this way added 25-30 yards to my driver on a very cold day. So I wanted to stop by and say thank you!
With iron shots I found that I am drawing the ball where as usually I’d be hitting little fades. (Again gaining a bit of distance but struggled in the early holes, towards the end I didn’t fight the draw and hit some great shots hitting one less club) I will watch the release update video as suggested in the video.
You also referenced a video about stepping and sending divots out to the picture – I was unable to find it?
Aside from only thinking about the target and perhaps one task do you have any other tips?
Hey Liam! That is terrific! See “kinetic chain facilitation and engagement series” as well as “draw fine tuning” and “fade fine tuning” and make sure you have seen the “alignment reload” which is a several times kind of video because that side vision will constantly tug at you and throw big fat wrenches in the works without you noticing!
The video list you sent is great, I’m already seeing improvement in my swing. I’m a bit confused with these swing feelings. You say we should be feeling the release at 4 and 8 (after swinging through vertical) but when you’re demonstrating, it’s clear that you’re really starting to put force into the swing at 8 and 4, that is, well before vertical rather than after. When I do that, the release is at 6. I know “feel isn’t real” but it seems like I’m missing something important.
Hi Theodore! So glad you are enjoying the content! Have you seen the “kinetic chain facilitation and engagement series”? When you combine what you are saying to a specific task, (video#6 is my favourite and I use this every day in my 1-1 teachings here at the club) things come into focus much better; then you can place your awareness on what that feels like to you. Walking drill, while delivering divots or grass clippings into the direction of flight with pure momentum, momentum leads to kinetic chain engagement and then the swing explodes into the direction of flight and the fireworks begin.
Hi Shawn,
Great series! Things seem to be clicking this offseason. I still suffer from the two way miss you referenced in this video so wanted to delve more into that. Tried searching “pulling shots left” you mentioned but results bar blank. Would the video you referenced have a different name?
Thank you and congradulations to Mu!
good stuff! The video in the premium site that expands on it is the “alignment reload” video; add “blur of club” and “arc-Blur unstoppable momentum” series and you have a deep winner!
I’m finally starting to get the swing pattern. Some careful study and practice of these swing feelings is helping it come together. I think I’ve been trying to hold on to the lag too long which actually led to the opposite happening in my swing so I wasn’t getting any of those whipping through feelings.
Very good! Not your job to hold off the lag; your conscious mind is way too slow to figure out when to apply the release; but if you let the momentum release you into the direction you want to start the ball, and you are staying with that direction all the way through (arc-blur through ball and intermediate point) then this anchors the head and the release will happen when and where it needs to.
Hey Shawn! I started doing this recently (3 handicap) and it’s really improved my game. I was tired of the right miss and it completely cured that problem.
I’m about 3 or 4 weeks into this grip change now and I am hooking the ball off the face of the earth and can no longer hit my irons high… any advice for me ?? I’ve tried the Goldilocks rule but I can’t even open my face slightly anymore without it slicing. I can’t seem to find the happy middle ground again!
You bet! It’s a combination of 3 items:
1-Have you been working of the release videos? (lead hand, trail hand, important release update?)
2-are you feeling the release of the club past the intermediate point into the direction of flight?
3-Are you letting momentum release you in the direction you want to start the ball?
videos:
-all the release videos
-target confirmation series
-goldilocks series (ball position-distance to ball-grip and club face-levels for full prediction before you swing)
-alignment reload
-blur of club
-arc-blur unstoppable momentum series
-CONTACT MILE MARKERS (to make sure you are not OVER TILTING BEHIND THE BALL
Ok , I think I answered my own question. It’s the extreme side tilt combined with the club loft and strong grip that requires the hands forward to make flush impact. I’ve been swinging with a much more vertical spine. That leads to a chain of reaction that forces me to have a vertical shaft at impact and a neutral grip or I end up hooking terribly. I have to practice emulating your body position at setup and the very strong grip in order to get the impact position you’re training.
See the “braced tilt” video for that! And if you are still hooking after that, with the speed through and solid contact, you need to back off the grip as it means it’s too strong.
Hello Shawn, when I do this drill I feel a flat shoulder turn and my head is moving away from the target, is it the correct feeling ? And then I have to fall toward the target while my back is still facing it?
The feeling is different from my actual swing and it makes me realise that my shoulder turn is usually incomplete
Hi Benjamin! No, don’t take this drill that literally; it’s the feel of the levitating arms up the rib cage AFTER a full turn away from the target; see “backswing levitation” and “lead hand release backswing” videos to complete the loop!
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