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Shawn, at 17:50, you mention that there are two options at address: either square up the clubface by getting behind the ball and rotating the arms, or the other option (which I don’t quite understand) resembling a more neutral setup but with a closed clubface. Does this mean that the clubface points approximately 30 degrees left of the target at setup? Is that what you mean, or am I misunderstanding something? I’m thinking it must be difficult to aim at a target if the clubface isn’t aligned with the target at setup, even if it’s centered at impact.
Hi Gustav!
Yes, exactly; I lost a big junior tournament to a now professional who had his club face exactly like that. I was looking at him thinking I was going to kick his butt and he beat me by 5 shots that day; 67 to my ok 72. I still remember his name! Jimmy Vendette!
So when I started teaching, I realized 90 percent of my students did not have an adequate grip and club relationship and made many of them close the face this way and it worked all the time; but everyone was like, “but what are other golfers I play with going to say? Then I realized and learned the DYNAMIC REASON FOR IT and compared to Hockey and Jai Alai and Other sports and we are here now with these options to get penetrating, compressed, squeezed and jump off the face contact towards your targets.
And when you do somewhere in between these options, and put you swing on video face on, you realize, hey, everything looks good! 😝😀👍
I have a deeply ingrained habit of flipping the trail hand to square the club, so when I try this grip ball goes left left left (playing righthanded). Do you recommend sticking with a strong grip or doing what comes “naturally”?
do you know where your release is? Have you tried throwing the club with the 2 tees in the way and then put the ball on the first tee and then throw the club again with the 2 tees in the way? See “target confirmation series” and “stick your finish despite the ball series”
My release: I do get some amount of shaft lean (i.e. the shaft and lead arm line up shortly after striking the ball). But the trail wrist is NEVER flexed at impact except for very slow swings and half shots, and my trail arm is just about straightened at impact or shortly after. Sort of looks like Vijay Singh’s impact position.
I will try your suggestion. Like I said, my “brain” squares the club with trail wrist flexion and has forever. This is such an ingrained pattern for me and leads to (I think) a lot of inconsistent ball striking (fat/thin) b/c the margin for error is so small.
I have spent years trying to change this pattern and nothing has really worked. If I could get the same form I see throwing the club when I am actually hitting a ball, I would be ecstatic.
See it with “collect the ball from here and release it over there” and not as AN IMPACT. The golf ball contact with the club is an ELASTIC COLLISION, the ball flattens slightly and stays on the face for a while before leaping off it.
intellectually aware of this and have tried every. single. cue. task. aid. method. but my body has its own self organizing in place that is stubborn to change.
Time to send me some video clips!
Wow! Wow!
Shawn, you’re a saint! I am closing the driver about 40 degrees, I can now pick a target LH side of fairway with an intermediate point of course and hit a nice fade with full confidence it’s in play!
I can swing at 80% and have zero fear!
Wow, amazing. I hate a strong grip and neutral with a closed face is an absolute game changer.
Why on earth does no one teach this?
Shot an 82 today!
Right on Aaron! That is how you use the information to your advantage! Great stuff and keep us posted to your next breakthrough!